SpaceLogic C-Bus Commission does not work on ARM architecture processors

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    SpaceLogic C-Bus Commission 2.8.0 and 2.9.0 do not work on M1 Mac Arm platform VM


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    It's going to be much the same for every commissioning software out there, and making it work is a non-trivial thing.

    For most developers, (at present) dealing with this niche is a non-urgent problem.
     
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    Yes, that will be an issue for any Windows Native Applications that have not been specifically compiled and debugged, for Arm - While there is a version of the JDK available from Microsoft that should work with C-Gate-3 as 2.9.0 SLCC has updated to an Open JDK 11 environment. This only solves part of the problem, in that C-Gate may run just fine (suggest, May not a guarantee), however, the SLCC and Toolkit, as well as other software like PICED and Schedule Plus, would undoubtedly still have issues.

    Should be a warning from Microsoft / PC vendor when purchasing a new Windows OS PC with ARM, as they are not compatible with many applications.
     
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    Had similar issues with new surface with arm and compatibility with software, Windows must emulate some stuff as o had only few apps that failed. Never tried any commission software on these devices yet. Still just use cheap laptops for most onsite work they for one get abused by staff and aren't desirable for people to steal.
     
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    Thanks Ashleigh
    I can't see a case where an installer would not want to use VM's these days to manage various incompatible C-Gate versions.
    All the Toolkit commissioning software works with Parallels on M1 Mac so I hoped the Spacelogic software would.
     
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    Thanks snuffles.
    I created the post mostly for information.
    The machine is M1 Macbook Pro running Parallels.
    C-Gate 2, C-Gate 3 and C-Bus Toolkit work.
    USB drivers for the PC interface are available.
    I haven't tried Piced or Schedule Plus lately but so far only Space Logic commission installer is showing as not compatible.
     
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    Hi its good to know that the older tools are working,
    Can I ask for C-Gate 2 and C-Gate 3 what Java JDK are you running?
     
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    It was about 6 months ago but I think this is correct.
    On M1 MacBookPro running Windows 11 with Parallels I let both CGate2 and CGate3 CBus Toolkit versions install Java.
    Because of incompatibilities I was uninstalling CGate and Toolkit versions to swap but now I set them up as isolated VM's.
    The only issue I had was the silab drivers for the USB PCI had to be changed to an arm version.

    I also had CGate3 running on raspberry pi4 with jdk-8u202-linux-arm64-vfp-hflt.tar.gz from Oracle
     
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