Wiser and Temperature Display

Hi,

I've attempted to implement the logic as per the following threads to display temperature from my 5031RDTSL units through the Wiser (I have two sensors, one outside under an eave and one inside). I have setup both sets of logic as per the link below in the end, one for each sensor as I can't seem to get either to work and I don't know what I'm missing.

http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6180
and
http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7124

I've added the devices in Project>CBUS App>Measurement Application Manager
I've added the variable in Project>Edit System IO
I've added the logic and global variables and the logic runs without error
I've setup the temperature sensor units (new) to "Measurement" mode with 0.5C broadcast and 1 minute broadcast intervals (the rest at defaults)

One thing I've noticed when in CBUS Toolkit, after changing the devices to "Measurement", an application is created called Measurement but the devices are not populated in there (nor do I have an option to add them if i edit the application in CBUS toolkit). Is this supposed to populate this application when I change the mode of the sensors?

Secondly, I can read the temp off of the unit through CBUS toolkit by hitting refresh.

Last, the Widget I have setup displays the initial value I setup in System IO Variable Manager, but never updates through IPAD App or Browser to Wiser.

I'm guessing, the broadcasting isn't happening, or I'm reading the wrong channel? Whilst I setup the Channel in the module logic and in the Measurement App Manager, I don't see an option to set it up in the unit.

Can anyone see something I've missed?


Ben C.

 

Hi Ben,

Sounds like it should be working. Can you post your logic module and also please note the unit address and measurement device ID of your temp sensors.

I don't have an 5031RDTSL on my home network, (my sensors are in 5070 thermostats and the earlier analog temp modules or various thermistors attached to General input units), but I seem to remember from a client setup that in PICED with C-Bus connected, you should be able to see the temp in Measurement manager if it is configured correctly, before it even gets transferred to Wiser.

Check that the measurement device ID set in the temp sensor is what you are using in measurement manager, not the unit address (unless they are both set as the same)

Brad

 

Thanks for having a look...



Here are my settings and code..

Device Settings through CBUS tooklit

Code:

Unit Identification for 5031RDTSL
Sensor Mode: Measurement
DeviceID: 34

Application (auto created): Measurement

Global Settings for 5031RDRSL
Broadcast Trigger Group: <unused>
Automatic Temperature Broadcast>Broadcast Interval: 1 Minute
Automatic Temperature Broadcast>Temperature Threshold: 0.5 oC

Measurement Application Channel

Code:

Name: TempLounge
Network: Local Network
Device ID: 34
Channel: 0
Units oC

Power Meter: Measuring Power is unchecked
Controllable: unchecked

System Input/Ouput

Code:

Name: TempLounge
Type: String
Value 0 C

Logic
Global Variabiles

Code:

TempLounge : real;
TempLoungeString : string;

Initialisation

Code:

   TempLounge := 0;

Module: TempLounge

Code:

if GetBoolIBSystemIO("Measurement App Valid Value", "Local Network", 34 , 0) then
  begin
    TempLounge := GetRealIBSystemIO("Measurement App Real Value", "Local Network", 34, 0);
    Format(TempLoungeString, TempLounge:0:1, 'C');
    SetStringSystemIO("TempLounge", TempLoungeString);
  end;

Widget

Code:

Service: Logic
Widget Type: User System IO String
Location: ~~
Function Group: ~~
System IO Variable: TempLounge
Label: Internal Temperature

Regards,

BenC

 

Hi Ben,

I don't have one of these to test out today, but on reading some of the other posts, I think the 'Get' lines maybe should read:

if GetBoolIBSystemIO("Measurement App Valid Value", "Local Network", 34 , 1) then

and

TempLounge := GetRealIBSystemIO("Measurement App Real Value", "Local Network", 34, 1);

as it seems like the 5031RDTSL module sends the temp on channel 1, not zero.

I think you could also consider removing the 'if GetBoolIBSystemIO("Measurement App Valid Value", "Local Network", 34 , 1) then' line all together and replace it with NickD's 'once (Second = 0) then' line instead which will run a temp update once a minute.

As mentioned before, the temps should display/work in 'Measurement Manager' from PICED ie you should see the values being updated in the table as long as you have ticked the 'Connect to C-Bus' under the options tab.

Let me know if this does it,

Brad

 

I can't believe it was that simple!

I think I tried channel 1 but had my logic wrong earlier in my trials. Can I ask what lead you to understand it uses channel 1? I couldn't find any documentation to suggest any specific channel.

Thanks for taking the time to help out.

I can now have a crack at more advanced code to manage natural cooling with automated windows/blinds based on temperature readings/comparisons.


Regards,

BenC

 

Hi Ben,

Glad to hear it fixed you up. You are right, I spent a while looking for the channel details in Toolkit help and PICED help and couldn't find unit specific information that suggested channel 1 rather than zero. It might be there but seems not under the unit specific details. I just then went on and read all the specific previous forum posts about that module and noticed they all had channel one used in the logic posted. That's where my suggestion came from as I didn't have one here to test.

Everyone enjoys the forum being a 'Two Way Street' so when you have your logic sorted out for the blind / windows control based on temp inputs etc, why not 'pay it forward' and post your logic for someone else to use/modify in future. I'm certain it will be appreciated by all.

All the best,

Brad

 

A good plan.

I've combined the previous recommendation to only check every minute from the other logic posted also.

Thanks again for helping ....

Regards,


BenC

 

Thanks for your posts guys - I now have my wiser showing temperature from all my zones.

BTW: I extended the comment from Newman in the second link above and am getting my temperature readings directly from my Advantage Air system via the measurement app

AA Automation Module =(rs232)=> B/Wtouch =logic=> measurement app => wiser

I also have another test running using an internet of things (M2M) gateway to harvest the same info and presenting that on the measurement app

 

Issue displaying on Wiser 2

Hi Guys,

I have a bit of a problem...

I'm using the same code above to show temperature on a Wiser 2. I have 2 x 5104 DTSI (digital temp sensor input unit) and 3 x5100DTST (digital probe).. 2 probes on the first input and 1 probe on the second

as a test the first device with 2 probes the temperature is outputted perfectly using


{Global Variable}
TempOutsideReal : real;
TempOutsideString : string;

{Initialisation}
TempOutsideReal := 0;

once (Second = 10) then // IMPORTANT - don't run this code every cycle - once a minute is ample
begin
TempOutsideReal := GetRealIBSystemIO("Measurement App Real Value", 254, 254, 1);
Format(TempOutsideString, TempOutsideReal:0:1, 'C');
SetStringSystemIO("TempOutside", TempOutsideString);
end;

On the second device with 1 probe the output just flashes up on the wiser briefly then defaults back to 0.0C with the following line changed to reflect the device ID 252

TempOutsideReal := GetRealIBSystemIO("Measurement App Real Value", 254, 252, 1);

All 3 probes are added to Measurement Manager and are displaying correctly there and also on the PICED wiser testing page as a Level/system I/0/Key Function (Status)/System I/O Variable.

Any thoughts?
Thanks Guys...