V2.7.7 with a Stallion Serial Port Server

Discussion in 'C-Bus Toolkit and C-Gate Software' started by Scar, Jan 15, 2005.

  1. Scar

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    Just wondering if anyone has ever tried to use a stallion easy server II with the old C-Bus V2 software??

    I am having problems connecting with the stallion server.
    (A stallion server works very similar to a cbus pc-ethernet interface)

    C-bus software sees the redirected com port and all appears fine until i try a network scan and then imediately I get a No response error message.

    I have successfully redirected my minder connection.

    I remember at one stage someone suggesting i need to change something in my ini file but cannot remember the value to change.

    Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Jason..
     
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    I'm sorry I can't help with your question but I am interested in redirection of com ports over TCP/IP, especially with Minder. Where can you buy this type of equipment?
    Regards,
    Michael.
     
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    I believe Charlie Crackle has done this, try chanting his name 3 times and see if he appears.

    Regards

    Rohan
     
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    Charlie Crackle

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    CNI for Minder...

    Some body called my name........

    Get a Digi1 SP.

    http://www.digi.com/products/externaldeviceservers/digionesp.jsp

    Works great with minder.

    I sell them for $270 inc GST + Freight (none in stock 17 day eta)

    Works fine with old Cbus software that used Minder as a PCI


    I will try connecting one to a PCI and then access via tool kit.

    Charles
     
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    Cant get either the minder or the old cbus pc interface to work as yet.

    Minder works excellently. Using lantonix com port redirector as the software. Same software that comes with the ethernet pc interface i believe.

    Jason.
     
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    Did some testing with the Digi One SP. Setup as COM4 and connected to DIGI One SP to PCI interface. Works fine with tool kit setup in serial mode.

    Charles :) :)
     
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    Bump

    Still no success with the stallion server and c-bus interface. Only thing I havent tried is a new PCI on my network. Frustrating that Minder works without a hitch while c-bus is being very tempremental.

    Jason..
     
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    Recently tried a new DIN PCI and it now works across my Stallion server.Still a few bugs to work out as about 10% of units come up with an error and cant retrieve details. But i can now confirm you seem to need a new (aka Din Rail) PCI to do ethernet to serial connections.
    The old PCI (big arse box) seems to not like any serial to ethernet connection.

    Thanks.
    Jason..
     
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    Is that $270 all up cost or $270 plus freight extra?

    I gather that this plugs into the RS232 socket on Minder and the other end plugs into a router etc?

    How easy is it to set up?

    What software comes with it?

    And last of all, where are you located?

    Martin
     
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    If I had realised you were using the V1 "ol' big arse" interface I could have told you it wouldn't work..... sorry about that.

    I had exactly the same problem as you, stallion works ok with minder but not V1 PCI. I dont know why, but I'm assuming the product has evolved since then and it is not longer fully compatible.

    Cheers

    Rohan
     
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    Charlie Crackle

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    $270inc + Freight Freight to most places is $12 (Courier)

    100% correct

    Very Easy. ut the CD in and run setup

    Software to configure it

    Greensborough Melbourne. It will be shipping from sydney.

    Send me an Offline message if you one one.

    Charles


    $270inc + Freight Freight to most places is $12 (Courier)
     
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    I prefer to say the old V1 was built for comfort not for speed. Knowing that C-Bus doesn't need speed I assumed Comfort would see me all the way. :)

    V1 Stuff does has a size disadvantage, but about 85% of my house is done in V1 gear and only 1 piece of equipment has failed ( touch wood A 4 channel dimmer failed and was replaced by an 8 channel din rail dimmer.)
    Still amazes me that we now have bus couplers when i used to use the old 4 channel input units. That I will agree with you was "Big Arse" :)


     
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    Don't bin it! you never know when you might find a use for it.

    I had V1 stuff all through my previous house with very few problems.

    It was running down the old 2 pair phone cable and worked flawlesly.

    There is no real reason why the stallion stuff shouldn't work, I suspected I was missing a control line or 2 but I never sat down and traced it out, I just moved instead :)

    Cheers

    Rohan
     
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    Hi Charlie, I just got a Digi One SP for a great price and just set it up. There is a problem, CBus V2 software cannot find the PC interface.
    Minder software just sends data but never receives anything back.

    Did you use the Realport profile or some other profile?
    I have used the default settings when setting it up.

    Martin
     
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    Charlie Crackle

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    Can the cbus software see any com port interface com1 ??

    You may have the java library problem

    I just use the realport profile.

    What com port number does it install as?
     
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    Hi,

    I eventually changed the serial cable and straight away the V2 software started to read the network. But only once, now it does not work again.

    The Digi unit is installed as COM2, both Minder and V2 are set to use COM 2.

    If I log into the Digi unit and look at
    Device Information->Serial Ports and Diagnostics->Port1
    The following Signal lights are green when either Minder or V2 are trying to access the Minder unit.
    RTS DTR DSR the others are grey.
    The Total Data Out increases but Total Data In is 0

    I also made sure that javax.comm.properties existed in all LIBs of all Java versions.

    Martin
     
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    Sounds like you have done every thing right.

    THe fact that changing the cable got it working (for a while) sounds like some thing is dodgy. sounds like the receive pin is the problem
    maybe a bad solder joint on the plug ? (could be internal to the digi one)
    May be digi one is fautly. (May be why the price was so great !)

    wire up the digi to another PC coms port (you will need a NULL modem cable)

    Fire up hyperterminal at each end and just make sure you can get comms both ways.

    I have 3 of them on Home minder, Cbus PCI and TOuch Screen I have not a trouble with any of them. I can even program the IR plate via the fast programming cable and DigiONE and works fine.

    Charles
     
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    Thanx for your help. I shall try a few things.
    My great price was from a reputable shop in Melbourne ($240) delivered.

    It comes with a loopback plug which I just plugged into the db9 port of the Digi.
    I fired up CbusV2 and all 5 green lights were now on, before, the CTS and DCD were not on. So it may be a cable problem.
    Guess I may have to by a new one.

    Tanx
    Martin
     
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    Charlie Crackle

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    I was only joking about the great price..... :) :)


    I am using the standard serial cable that comes with the PCI interface

    I am using the standard serial cable that comes with home minder.

    I am using the standard serial cable that comes with C-Touch



    Using the loopback plug you should be able to use hyper terminal and see what you type. There is also a DIGI test program as well that checks all the other pins.

    I would be interested to know.
    When you bought your DIGI was there a power cable in the box ?? (from wall to transformer). DIGI new policy was to drop the power cable (and reduce the price) this way they could ship the same box to anywhere in the world (the power supply is auto ranging). It is a standard power cable so not hard to get but if you forget cusotmer is not always happy for you to borrow the electic jug power lead !!! :D :D

    Charles
     
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    My Minder was installed a few years ago and the installers never left a serial cable.
    I bought a Serial cable extension from Dick Smith today and it now works.
    The other cables I tried were for 2 different UPS's and a modem.

    The Digi came with a power supply and cable.
    All I needed to add was a Serial cable and lan cable.

    Martin
     
    martymonster, Mar 7, 2005
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