Tools for 3rd party Apple IOS developers

Discussion in 'C-Bus Wiser 1 Controller' started by paulwat, Jun 11, 2011.

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    paulwat

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    Hi all,

    I have recently purchased a Wiser unit and despite having some issues with it's configuration (which I am still trying to overcome) I am pleased with it's potential as I have been with all of the CBUS hardware I have purchased.

    What is surprising me is the lack of software for the Ipad or even a decent Iphone app.

    I understand the commercial realities of not being able to do everything at once but Wiser as a platform combined with an Apple Ithingy could really help sell CBUS to a much wider end user market.

    Clipsal/ Schneider is clearly a hardware company so it surprises me that I see no mention of enabling third party development of IOS (or any other format for that matter) applications.

    Taking an example - the Demopad application for IOS (http://www.demopad.com/index.html ) is a remote control platform that already supports Lutron and Crestron, this for me would be a killer application if it interfaced with Wiser as well.

    There was a question posted previously asking if an SDK would be offered to 3rd party developers - there wasn't really an answer - So I would like to ask again is there a plan to move in this direction?

    For clarity when i say SDK i am talking about a suite of tools that would allow developers access to the wiser using an application such that the other web based functions of Wiser continue to work - plenty of people already have 3rd party access via Cgate and CNI approaches but this isn't what i mean and would negate most of the benefits of Wiser.

    If CBUS is to break away from a traditional BMS type image it needs to embrace the Ipad/Iphone/tablet as a hand held front end and offer the opportunity for integration with other control applications.

    Regards

    Paul
    P.S. Whilst today I am a user /specifier of this technology -2nd house I have had a complete install and rewire - I am also considering a career change which would see me enter into this area in a professional capacity hence my rather impassioned request to address this gap in CBUS useability as without it I am not convinced CBUS would continue to compete in the residential market.
     
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    Newman

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    Are you saying that you have issues with the freely available Wiser iPhone app?
     
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    I think he means it's not "decent" =) And have to agree
     
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    Obviously this would be a no go for commercial development without support but for hobbyist use the wiser protocol is not that difficult to understand after a few minutes with wireshark (it's xml based).

    The only non trivial part is the encryption used for the users password (or maybe it is trivial - I spent 0 minutes trying to reverse engineer it for my toy applications) which again for a hobbyist application or where you don't change your password often (shock horror) is really not a problem.

    Maybe once Clipsal are happy that this protocol isn't going to need any significant changes they'll provide documentation and support for it.
     
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    I'm happy to hear that.

    You are exactly right.
     
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    Hi Ashields,

    Any chance you can share what hobby app code you got going? I had a go with wireshark this morning and whilst I could easily enough work out the XML command and status stuff, wiser doesnt respond, I expect because i'm not sending or at least establishing any authorisation. I'm working on a hobby app too using ajax/php that I am hoping to use on an ipad abd whilst I have some things working via c-gate, getting it to work via my wiser would be nice too.

    Cheers;
    Michael.
     
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    actually, i got it sorted now. still interested to share your code though if thats possible. happy to share what i've written.
     
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    wiser api

    Hi Michael,

    Here's a copy of my source if it's of any interest to you.

    It's java

    com.ashields.cbus.* "general" cbus load and group classes
    com.ashields.wiserclient.* wiser connection and listener stuff
    com.ashields.ha a couple of test "applications", one for monitoring pir activity and one for lighting use

    It's all read only, not really had any requirement to do anything else

    Cheers
    Alan
     

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