Is the frame time out supposed to start when the frame is first loaded or when it changes. this is what I am trying to do; Have a Home page with a sub page frame that has just the "select" button - "capture'; Then when it is touched a new sub page is loaded - "capture1". Now if nothing is touched I want it to go back to the "capture" look after a time out. If a button is touched - leave sub frame there, show new page and timeout out as above. It works with my logic but want to use the time out feature if possible, people have trouble following my logic - code I mean. tks Dave