What else am I forgetting.... I have a Wiser, B&W Mk 2 Touch screen - one with logic one without, and a PAC on my network... As far as I can tell - none of the above are using NTP. Schedules using the scheduler appear to work on the touch screens. Using PICED 4.12.1 I have set my location to be Melbourne... I have some logic present in the logic engine; if (Time = "11:20:00 PM") then It does not execute at 11:20pm, but at 10:20pm - an hour early. If I have the daylight savings set - add 1 hour, it calculates sunset correctly but all my logic runs an hour early. If I have daylight savings off - my logic does run at the correct time - but it calculates sunrise and sunset an hour earlier than it should... I have tried turning NTP off, removing the daylight saving schedules, all combinations and it just comes back to either sunset / sunrise is out by an hour or the scheduled time is out by an hour - neither work consistently out by an hour or correctly. I have read many a post here offering solutions, tried them all - but not solving my issue, and those posts I reference don't indicate if anyone has solved the issue. Help please - its driving me insane !