Safe/reliable operating temperature

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    Tension

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    I have 3x LED Spacelogic dimmers mounted in a standard size enclosure. I have noticed the enclosure is warm. In SLCC the unit temperature of the top unit is 56°C, and each of the separate channels range from 48°C to 51°C.

    Is this OK? Would they last longer if run at a lower temperature?

    Has anyone fitted fans to their cabinet?

    Welcome your thoughts on this.
     
    Tension, Mar 18, 2026
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    Wonkey

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    Yes I Have fitted a fan in my cabinet, you will notice that within the instructions for the dimmer it states that the dimmer can be fully loaded when the air temp surrounding the dimmer is less than 35C if above this then derating will be required
    The surrounding air temp should always be less than 55C
    The dimmer can indicate over temperature which is set to 70C (flashing Led)and the indicator remains on until it drops below 65C this is an internal measurement and not that of the surrounding air,
    these values can be modified in SLCC but I wouldn't advice it.
    This value can also be broadcasted on to the network if needed for logic or viewing which is how I control my cabinet fan.
    As of for your case I wouldn't worry these units were designed in Australia for condition here.
    Fitting a fan won't hurt
    Today my cabinet temperature is just below 35C, individual unit at 68C and channels similar to yours.
    My fan will switch on soon.
    If you do fit a fan I suggest towards the top of your cabinet and ensure that air can get in towards the bottom. remember that you don't want foreign objects to get in either,
     
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    The temperatures you’re seeing in SLCC (48–56 °C) are internal device temperatures, not the ambient air temperature inside the enclosure. These values are measured at the internal ICs and power electronics, so they will always be higher than the cabinet air temperature.

    Based on the values you’ve quoted, everything is well within normal operating range for SpaceLogic LED dimmers.

    A few key points worth clarifying:

    • The temperatures shown in SLCC are not used to assess enclosure ventilation or ambient conditions.
    • The dimmers are designed to operate safely at these internal temperatures.
    • There is no need for fans at this point based on the numbers you’ve provided.
    What does matter for long‑term operation is the ambient air temperature around the dimmers:

    • Channel de‑rating is based on ambient air temperature, not internal readings.
    • De‑rating typically starts around 35 °C ambient and continues progressively up to around 55 °C ambient (see the User Guide).
    • While 55 °C is the upper limit, it would not be recommended to operate a cabinet anywhere near this in normal use.
    • From a reliability perspective, keeping the cabinet below ~35 °C ambient is preferable.
    Lower ambient temperature directly improves lifespan—particularly of components like electrolytic capacitors, which are sensitive to heat. This is true for all electronic equipment, not just C‑Bus dimmers.

    For completeness:

    • The dimmers will automatically reduce output as internal chip temperatures rise (starting well above your current levels).
    • Protective shutdown occurs only at much higher internal temperatures (≈100 °C), so the devices actively protect themselves.
    In summary:

    • 48–56 °C internal temperature = completely normal
    • No additional cooling required at present
    • Focus on reasonable cabinet ambient temperature, not the SLCC readings
    I strongly recommend reviewing the SpaceLogic C‑Bus Digital Dimmers User Guide—particularly pages 17–18, which explain thermal behavior, de‑rating, and protection mechanisms very clearly.

    SpaceLogic C-Bus Digital Dimmers User Guide

    One additional point worth mentioning is that SpaceLogic dimmers can be enabled to actively report temperature information onto C‑Bus, which gives you options beyond just observing values in SLCC.

    • Device and channel temperatures can be exposed via the C‑Bus Measurement Application, allowing regular temperature updates to be published on the bus.
    • Thermal warnings and fault conditions can be reported using the C‑Bus Error Application, with configurable thresholds for setting and clearing alarms automatically.
    This means that if you wanted to implement some form of automated response (as suggested earlier in the thread), you absolutely can — using:

    • Automation Controllers
    • PAC / Wiser / Home Controller
    • Or any logic engine capable of processing Measurement or Error Application messages on C‑Bus
    Typical uses might include:

    • Alerting or logging when temperatures exceed a defined limit
    • Triggering ventilation or load reduction logic
    • Producing a temperature trend over time, which can be useful for validating cabinet design and confirming long‑term stability
    Alternatively, you may simply choose to log the temperature data and trend it over days or weeks to build confidence that everything is operating normally.

    These configuration options can be found in SLCC under the “Measurement” and “Error Reporting” sections for the dimmer, where both reporting behavior and alarm thresholds can be configured.
     
    Colin, Mar 26, 2026
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    Tension

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    Thanks so much for the comprehensive answer.

    Appreciated :)
     
    Tension, Mar 27, 2026
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