PAC sending commands when it should not

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  1. Charlie Crackle

    Charlie Crackle

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    I have customer that has been working well for years..
    Doorbell switch in input modules and two door bells on output module.

    ONLY pac code is

    once (GetLightingState("Door Bell Button") = ON) then
    begin
    PulseCBusLevel("Local Network", "Lighting", "Door Bell House", 100%, 0, "0:00:01", 0%);
    PulseCBusLevel("Local Network", "Lighting", "Door Bell WorkShop", 100%, 0, "0:00:05", 0%);
    end;



    door bell has been recently been going off for no reason.

    I have been logging the cbus traffic....

    normal Operation

    DateTime= 8/08/2020 2:49:00 PM App= 056 Lighting Group= 053 Door Bell Button Unit= 215 Event= Group on
    DateTime= 8/08/2020 2:49:01 PM App= 056 Lighting Group= 046 Door Bell House Unit= 250 Event= Group on
    DateTime= 8/08/2020 2:49:01 PM App= 056 Lighting Group= 047 Door Bell Workshop Unit= 250 Event= Group on
    DateTime= 8/08/2020 2:49:01 PM App= 056 Lighting Group= 053 Door Bell Button Unit= 215 Event= Group off
    DateTime= 8/08/2020 2:49:02 PM App= 056 Lighting Group= 046 Door Bell House Unit= 250 Event= Group off
    DateTime= 8/08/2020 2:49:06 PM App= 056 Lighting Group= 047 Door Bell Workshop Unit= 250 Event= Group off



    but when the phantom door bell happens i see this

    DateTime= 22/08/2020 7:59:48 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 067 Family Room TV Unit= 250 Event= Group off
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 8:00:54 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 052 Garage Front Light Unit= 250 Event= Group off
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 8:00:54 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 046 Door Bell House Unit= 250 Event= Group on
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 8:00:54 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 047 Door Bell Workshop Unit= 250 Event= Group on
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 8:00:56 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 046 Door Bell House Unit= 250 Event= Group off
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 8:01:00 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 047 Door Bell Workshop Unit= 250 Event= Group off


    or

    DateTime= 22/08/2020 10:48:23 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 046 Door Bell House Unit= 250 Event= Group on
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 10:48:23 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 047 Door Bell Workshop Unit= 250 Event= Group on
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 10:48:24 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 046 Door Bell House Unit= 250 Event= Group off
    DateTime= 22/08/2020 10:48:28 AM App= 056 Lighting Group= 047 Door Bell Workshop Unit= 250


    Unit 250 is the PAC

    there is NO "Door Bell Button" event so why is the pac sending the pulse commands.

    any one else seen this sort of thing and have any ideas ??

    do PAC do this when they get old ??
     
    Charlie Crackle, Aug 22, 2020
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    My guess is that it isnt the PAC but the output unit, its a thing that happens especially on older units, I KNOW it says its unit 250 but basically the output unit 'mirrors' packets that have come in and transmits them later. Are the channels with the TV Unit and the Garage light on the same output unit as the Doorbells? If so, I would try replacing or isolating that output unit for now and see if that fixes the erroneous messages.
     
    jboer, Aug 23, 2020
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    Charlie Crackle

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    Thanks for the response the door bells are on a NEW 24V relay module may be there is a power supply failing...
     
    Charlie Crackle, Aug 26, 2020
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    Strange things like this can happen when there are MMI errors. The last unit to set will resend its last value to correct the error... and in the case of a PAC, if nothing else corrects it I think the PAC will eventually do it itself even if it weren't the last unit to set it (since it listens to everything and knows what the value should be).

    The MMI errors themselves may be a sign of a power supply failing. Try using the traffic analyser in the Diagnostic Utility.

    Nick
     
    NickD, Aug 27, 2020
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