Options for outdoor sensor other than 5750WPL

Discussion in 'Infrared (NIRT, IR Reader) and CIRCA' started by CBusser, Feb 24, 2011.

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    CBusser

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    Is the 5750WPL the only option for an outdoor motion sensor that works with CBUS?

    I just cant believe that a product that is designed to work with Architect designed homes has only 1 unsightly looking product for outdoor sensoring

    Please help, desperate :confused:
     
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    You can use any motion sensor that has a dry contact output. You can then connect this output to a C-Bus Bus Coupler or Auxiliary Input Unit (depending upon isolation requirements). This gives you the freedom to use just about any sensor you choose.
     
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    well if the requirement requires a weatherproof sensor - they will all be ugly no matter who's brand you use.

    does it really have to be weatherproof ?? side of building exposed =yes

    under shielded area like an eve etc = no

    look at the light fittings attached to the same location and see if they are weatherproof?
     
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    Would an indoor sensor such as a 5753L placed in ceiling of an entrance porch have any operational problems as a night time motion sensor, to turn on a courtesy light?
     
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    There's an old thread discussing the use of indoor PIR's outdoors here.
     
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    That thread highlights the design theory that the sensor is a visible theft deterant. But what about just the need to be a courtesy light? It wouldnt be so hard to release am IP rated version for in porchs.
     
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    you can take into account all that thread mentioned above.

    I have installed 5753 PIR in alot of outdoor situations and never had too much of a problem.

    they are more prone to false triggering especially in high hot winds.
    I have had them installed for 7 + years at my own house under the eaves with zero issues.

    so if you prefer something aesthetically i say use it. but if there are some adverse effects for using something out of it designed purpose there will be no comeback to the manufacturer,.
     
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    CCTV Camera >>>> Recorder >>>> Motion detection activated >>>> Relay >>>> C-Bus Analogue input >>> Reaction

    I find that more of this type of work is now possible with cameras as much as it is with detectors. I guess you don't want this in the bedroom unless your name is Charlie Sheen.
     
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    Better security & integrity with dry contact method

    Just as a point of interest we have often considered that there is a marginal security benefit and fault resiliance to using dry contacts interfacing with external sensors.

    In that if a C-Bus outdoor sensor is used it means bringing the C-Bus network outside of the building shell, and potentially making it possible for somebody to connect onto it from outside. Depending on what is being done with C-Bus this may or may not be a major concern.

    In terms of reliability, a short on a dry contacts cable would not affect much beyond the monitored circuit, whereas a short on a network cable could crash a whole network section.
     
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