Hi, I am looking for some help. I have recently bought a new house which has an installed C-Bus system. The problem is that no documentation of the system was left. There is an extensive C-bus system with a Minder system which has a serial port on it. The system is probably as old as the house (1999 or so built). It was certainly incorporated in the original build and I don't think it has been added to since then so all components are of about that time. Not knowing if this was a valid thing to do, I downloaded the latest C-bus toolkit and installed it on my work PC which has a serial port on it and after sorting out the proper pinout and gender cable, fired it up against the system the other day. It identified the project name with the previous owners name so I have to assume that it made some contact with the system but then failed with an error saying something along the lines of it couldn't interpret a response of ~~~~ ^^^. I know that is a little vague on the detail but what I am seeking here is what is the right tool (and version of) to be using in the first place and can I get access to both the Minder and C-Bus systems through that serial port? The fact that it got some access to the C-Bus through the Minder serial card suggest that it is possible but perhaps the software I tried is too "new". The Minder has a phone message that answers every call after 3 rings and plays a "where not home" message and hangs up. This among other things I would like to fix, and it'd be damn nice just to have control of the C-Bus system. After all, isn't that the point of it? Any help would be much appreciated.