Major Problem Colour Touch Screen

Has any one come across what appears to be a problem with the Homegate 3.7 and the colour touch screen. What I have found is any scene that ramps GA's to 0% over a set time of say 1min has big problems. What happens is that any GA that were at 100% before the scene was run get ramped to 1% where they stay for what seems to be a ramdom time of anywhere from an extra one minute right up to three minutes. After this random time is reached the GA then turn off to 0%. If their is a trigger used for the scene this gets set to 100% and that is where it stays. This creates a problem if you are useing a bell press mech to remote trigger the scene due to the fact that the first time the key input is pressed it does not trigger the scene because the touch screen left the trigger GA at 100%. The second time the key input is pressed the scene then is trigged as it should have been the first time it was pressed. The problem of the GA getting ramped to 1% also affects the system if you have set up you key switch as memoory dimmers because the next time you press the memory dimmer that is controlling one of the GA that got ramped tyo 1% it goes staright back to 1% (a real pain in the ass). The only way you can see all of the above is if you run the toolkit application log while the scene is being run. This problem also has many other implicatins to the c-bus system. If you don't belive me grab a colour touch screen make a new project and track what happens in the application log on Toolkit. The Application log on the touch screen shows everything as normal (but it lies).

 

Ramp to 1% then off

From the Piced Help File

Ramp Groups to Off
When a group address is ramped to level 0, the command is received by all C-Bus Units on the network. On some old C-Bus input units, the status indicator will go off as soon as this message is seen, even though the level is still above 0 for some time. For this reason, many devices send a "ramp to level 1" command followed by an "off" command when the level gets to 1. In this case, the input unit status indicators will show the state correctly. To select this behaviour, select the Ramp Groups to Level 1 then send Off check box.

If this check box is not selected, then ramping to level 0 will be done with a single "ramp to level 0" command.

dave

 

Ramp to 0 command

Checking or unchecking this box has no affect with the problem

 

This has been resolved for the upcoming version 4 release of PICED. This problem will be emphasized by the use of lots of alphablending.

Regards,

Matty

 

The big question on every ones mind is when will we see this new software release?

 

Matty
Whats been resolved in next release, the ramp to zero ??
Think Otters has other problems as well like he set up bell press to stay at %100 and not reset to %0.

dave

 

The problem with the bell press mech is not that it is staying at 100%. It is the fact that the trigger GA for the scene in am turning on via the bell press mech gets turned to 100% when the scene was ran previously from the C-Touch, and it stays at 100%. So the next time you press the bell press it just sends the GA to 0% because it was allready at 100% (due to a fault in how the scene was ran from the C-Touch) and the touch screen does not see the trigger GA for that scene go to 100% untill you press the bell press for a second time.

 

Otters
It is the fact that the trigger GA for the scene in am turning on via the bell press mech gets turned to 100% when the scene was ran previously from the C-Touch, and it stays at 100%.

Are you saying you have the trigger group in the scene itself ???

Try this.
Check the matrix display to make sure the trigger group not turned on in another scene.
Make a new project with just one scene and one bell press button and see what happens, this may show you what you doing wrong.

dave

 

Unfortunately we can't comment on release dates. It will be as soon as we can get it all ready and tested.

 

You may need to send the project archive and some details of how to make this happen to Tech Support.

 

Dave, The trigger is not in the scene it's self, the touch screen dicides all by it's self to ramp the scene trigger to 100%. Pretty handy (NOT)!!

 

Darren, I have allready done this, Michael Fix has a copy of the CTa file, and all application notes on how his is happening.

 

Otters

Maybe you should of stayed working for Clipsal??

Chris.

 

but then I wouldn't get to programe c-bus every day!!!!!!