LED color changing?

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    Arielis

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    Hello,

    I tried to change the color of a LED fitting. Exactly, I would like to assign to the remote control different color to the buttons. I was trying to build some scenes but nothing seem to change by recalling the scene.

    I am using this driver

    http://www.ecat.lighting.philips.co...ageType=family&catalogLocale=en_GB_LP_OEM_ATG

    and have commissioned the fittings with masterconfigurator of Tridonic.

    Any ideas to creste some scene color changing.
     
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    That driver takes either a DMX or a DALI input for control, not C-Bus. How are you controlling this driver?
     
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    The driver is controlled by the C-BUS DALI gateway. We are using the DALI side of the driver.
     
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    Can you please provide full details of how you have configured this?

    How does that ballast control the colour? Is it 1 DALI group, address or scene for each colour of RGB or is it something else?
    How have you configured the DALI gateway?
    Is the Match Ramp Rates feature turned on in the gateway?
    What C-Bus devices are you using to try and control these scenes?
    How are those C-Bus devices configured?

    There are several configuration steps required to make this work and each one needs to be correct.
     
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    I assign them an DALI address with the masterconfigurator of Tridonic. Each fittings show me one address and I`ve created a group.

    For this moment, I can only configure the group inside the masterconfigurator via creating some scenes.

    I`ve just mapped the DALI group to the C-BUS group in the lighting application

    No

    I am using the remote control with the Multisensor and would try to control them with the DLT touch panel, too.
    With the remote control I should be able to program on each button a scene of color example: ]
    Key 1 = Red,
    Key 2 = Blue,
    Key3 = Red, 5s, Blue, 5s, Yellow....
    .....

    For example, on the DLT I`ve assign to the key 5 the control of the scene 1. I read a lot of documentation about using the trigger and action selection to create a scene, but not sure how to configure it.

    Thanks
     
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    I do not know your actual products but I can give an example of using 3 general DALI dimmers (type6) to mix colors.
    1: set them to 3 continue addresses, for example 0 for red,1 for green,2 for blue.
    2: add these three address to a same group, such as 0, and mark a name for the group(colorlamp0)
    3: set scene, if we want to set sence0(s0 in short) as red , we can calcualte rgb value= RGB(255,0,0), so we need to set s0 of address0 to 254(max), s0 of address1,2 to 0.
    the same, green will set RGB(0,255,0).
    if we have set scene of 0 to red, 1 to green, 2 to blue. mark names for these scenes(red,green,blue)
    4: now we try to control the lamps, in your control software choose target of colorlamp0(group0), and choose action of red(scene0), green(scene1),blue(scene2), you can see the lamp changed colors as your wish if successful.
     
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    Do we need to address the lights on the DMX side before connecting it in the DMX gateway. Which devices and software could be used to assign the DMX fittings?
     
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    The products are 8 DALI of types 8
     
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    The first place to start is to make sure that you can control the 3 colours of R, G and B from 3 independent C-Bus group addresses. Create 3 new C-Bus groups of Red, Green and Blue. Program 3 buttons on a C-Bus switch as dimmer keys that use these 3 addresses. Then program the DALI Gateway to map these 3 C-Bus groups onto the corresponding 3 DALI addresses you've configured into the Philips driver. Enable the Match Ramp Rates feature in the Gateway for that DALI line.

    If this is all done correctly you should be able to vary the intensity of the R, G and B from the C-Bus buttons. Once this is working you can look at getting scenes and other fancy stuff happening.
     
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    Hey, I have no experience to design a type 8 device yet.
    Not sure if clipsal's DALI gateway support the extended DALI commands to type 8.
    but I guess you can store the colors in scenes by software tools support type 8, then try to call these scenes in clipsal system like DALI fluorescent ballast (type 0).
     

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