With the ctouch i now find i need the windows task manager running all the time to kill ctouch when i make a mistake and start in new menu. Why, because the "cancel" button is not activated and if i hit "new" instead of "save" say it whats u to go through the full set project, set number etc before i can back to reopening the file i was working. Plan B is to use the task manager to kill ctouch and restart it - it faster the going all through menus i do not want. dave