crestron to wireless interface problem

Hi Guys,

Ok here is the setup.
The installation has 1 wired network(groups 1-49) and 3 wireless networks(groups 50-99; 100-149; 150-199).

The system interfaces with a crestron processor. The crestron has no problem switching any circuit on the wired network.

How ever there is no joy when trying to switch anything on the wireless.

EXP Group 56 with hex 38.

When you switch the group on a touch screen or the pc conected via cni on the wiser the group 56 on the wireless switches perfectly.

When you switch the same group via the crestron nothing hapens pysicly.

As the group 56 is created under the wired and wireless networks, when you switch from the touch screen or pc and the crestron it appears on the wired networks log. Also the lighting aplications status change and sees the comand comming from the pc inter face.

Even the button on the touch screen with back ground indication changes correctly when the crestron switches, but the light does nothing.

The strange part is that the log shows the same commands from every switch sorce exept for the origanating unit, But only with the crestron the physical light stays off.

Any Idees?

Attached find a screen shot of the log after switching from touch screen, then toolkit and last crestron.

 

It is almost certainly the case that the Crestron system is not configuring the C-Bus PCI that it is connected to correctly. You will need to contact Crestron for a proper fix.

In the mean time, is it possible to configure the Crestron to send messages explicitly to the Wireless network, rather than just to the local wired network?

 

I agree with Newman. I think that the specific problem is that the "Local SAL" mode of operation is not being set in the PCI.

If the Crestron Processor is not setting the PCI mode on start-up, then you can set the options of the PCI using the Diagnostic Utility to check that this is the cause of the problem:
1. Connect PC to PCI
2. Run C-Bus Diagnostic Utility
3. Select C-Bus | Connect To C-Bus Menu item
4. Click on Set Mode button
5. Select the Local SAL option
6. Click on OK
7. Without disconnecting the PCI from C-Bus, connect the PCI to the Crestron Processor
8. See if it works

Unfortunately, the Local SAL setting will be lost when the PCI loses power, so this is really just to verify the cause of the problem. The only satisfactory solution is to get Crestron to update their driver. The details of the command strings required are in the publicly available C-Bus protocol documents.

 

Are you using the Crestron C-bus modules?

I found all sorts of issues with them. I then started using modules from Simon Pollack and have no issues with a combined wired and wireless network

His number is 0405 500 777

 

Hi all.
Thanks for the replies.

Why does the wired side switch with no problem thou?

 

I think that it may be that the Crestron modules don't support a bridge.

Also have you set the wireless bridge to pass the lighting application?

 

It is a bit hard to fully explain unless you have a good knowledge of the C-Bus protocol. Basically, if the Local SAL mode is not set, the C-Bus message from the PCI will contain routing information which results in the message going to the local network, but not being forwarded by bridges using application connect mode.

 

This is a problem for the people who wrote the Crestron Module. It seems not to like multiple networks (bridged or wireless) it doesnt send the correct commands to the PCI or CNI depending on your config.

If you are familiar with Crestron you can write yourself a simple module to control C-Bus (Using strings same as RS232 control fairly basic but works well) or if your expert you could always use SIMPL+ to write your own...

 

Problem Solved.

Hi guys.

Ok here is wat we did.

Opend the network in toolkit via a serial interface.
Pluged the serial cable out of the interface and directly in to the crestron controler.

We the send group on and off comands on toolkit and viewed the code on the crestron test software.

We then enterd the exact code into the existing crestron module and bang...
every thing works like a dream.

Just for intrest we found that by having crestron trigger a virtual group and letting logic trigger the actual group also works perfectly.

Thanks for all the input.

 

Do you have e-mail for Simon Pollack please?

 

Here is a link to his website:
http://www.specialtyps.com.au/index.htm

 

sorry i don't.
But if you manage to get it pls foward it to me to.