Clipsal 31LCDA Load Correction Device for downlight not turning off 100%

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    Hi all

    I have extended my existing house C-bus to an outdoor studio/cabana. The main area has 6 Brightgreen D900 Classic downlights (same type as rest of the house) on a 4 channel universal dimmer. Channel 1 & 2 both have 2 Downlights as a load , whilst Channel 3 & 4 both have 1 downlight each as a load . (Reason for this is the specific scene combination of lights I want to trigger). The channels with just 1 downlight don’t seem to have enough load to trigger a completely off state and there seems to be enough current leakage for the single downlights to be on in a very dimmed state. I believe I need a Clipsal 31LCDA Load Correction Device on the output side of the universal dimmer channels for those with just 1 downlight connected. The channels with 2 downlights have no issues . Can someone confirm that this is the correct approach to resolve or do I need to check something else as well.

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    This would be the most logical path to take and the first thing I would try.

    However I have experienced a situation where the 31 lcda didn't resolve the issue even with 2 of them connected.
    If you have locally to the universal dimmer a couple of spare relay channels then consider wiring the lamps in series with the relay and dimmer.
     
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    Thanks that’s a good suggestion. I’ll try that if the 31lcda doesn’t resolve the issue.
     
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    Sorry for the late contribution.
    Often, you need to install the 31LCDA right next to the load. I've found in about 50% of cases, it didn't work when installed in the switchboard (across the output and neutral) but always worked when (then) installed at the load end (inside the plug-base). Obviously, it's normally easier to install in the switchboard but have not had an issue when installed inside the plug-base.
    I'd also make a note on the dimmer unit and in the Notes (db) in Toolkit for completeness.
     
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    Thanks for the tips. I should get the 31LCDA early next week to try out. With regards to Plug Base vs Switchboard installation my only concern with the Plug Base is the heat with only a 300mm roof gap , although it does have 2 whirlybirds. I’ll have to check the temp operating range of the 31LCDA to make sure it’s within. Good tip to include the notes in the Cbus toolkit.
     
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    I actually use these...

    https://pierlite.com.au/products/controls-lamps-accessories/dimmers/ledsmart-load-bypass-device

    Designed by the engineers who developed C-Bus. Better price than 31LCDA. Temp rating of 70 degrees C so OK in roofspace.
     
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