C-Touch Colour 5000CTC3 - SHAC

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    Need to replace a C-Touch Colour 5000CTC3 as it is dead with hopefully a SHAC and 5000ETP10W 10" Touchscreen, fortunately I have a copy of the file but does anyone know if it is possible to transfer logic, scenes and schedules from the old 5000CTC3 to the SHAC ? I understand the interface will have to be done again but would save a heap of time if I dont have to rewrite all the logic etc ??
     
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    Yeah Nah,
    you cant transfer it across as such, you will need to re-build everything..., scenes and schedules are straight forward but the scripting is totally different and doesn't transfer easily,

    That being said, i've done it several times now and its pretty easy now...
     
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    Yeah the scripting was my concern as I have programmed a few SHACs but they were new installs .. Scenes and schedules are easy but any gotchas with the scripts ?
     
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    Lua and Pascal are totally different programming languages.
    Also in the shac there are no global variables or once statements although you can replicate a once statement with flags etc.
    In my opinion, the best way is to port the pascal code to lua is to re-invent the code to be optimised for the shac and use.
    It depends what you are trying to do code wise...
     
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    Thanks I appreciate the advice and suggestions :)
     
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    The SHAC and Touch Screen logic engines are fundamentally different. The touch screen logic engine is effectively polled (as it executes each module every 200mS), whereas the SHAC is event driven.

    As Pie Boy mentioned, you will need to understand the touch screen logic then redesign the logic for the SHAC.

    How hard this is depends on the complexity of the existing logic.

    Migrating the scenes, schedules and interface is straight forward, but just time consuming
     
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    Thanks Ashley Great helps think I will give it a go as I guess the first one will always take me the longest ..
     
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    Have you gotten a quote from @Trevor for a repair?
     
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    No ? I didn’t know they could still be repaired ..
     
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    Send him a message :D
     
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    Hi Chromus, thanks again for the referral,
    Dave, we can indeed still repair most faults with these units, give me a call and we can discuss it.

    regards
    Trevor Callaghan
    Arbor Australia Pty Ltd
    Unit 36, 41-49 Norcal Road
    Nunawading Victoria 3131
    Ph 0404 887 463
    [email protected]
     
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    @Trevor
    Thanks for the info Trevor the client has decided to upgrade to a SHAC and Clipsal 10 Inch touchscreen but will keep you details for future jobs.
     
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    No worries Dave,
    If you don't want the old CTC3 I'd be interested in taking it off your hands.
    Send me an email and we can talk price.
    [email protected]

    regards
    Trevor
     
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    Is there anyone in the UK (or EU) who repairs CTC's ?
     
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    Hi Kevin,
    Sorry for the late reply, but you can send it to Australia and I can repair it.
    The freight charges aren't that bad, mabe only add an extra $100 to the repair cost.
    Or let me know if you want to sell it as well.

    regards
    Trevor Callaghan
    Authorised Clipsal colour touch screen repair
    Arbor Australia Pty Ltd
    Unit 36, 41-49 Norcal Road
    Nunawading Victoria 3131
    Ph 0404 887 463
    [email protected]
     
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