Alternative Ness alarm system?

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    I need to alarm a large building and calculate that we need at least 20 sensors. I see that Ness has a larger alarm with 24 sensors- the Ness D24. has anybody tried integrating this larger model with C-bus?
     
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    You could also check out Inner Range - Concept 3000 / 4000.
     
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    And a few more things as well... coming soon....
     
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    Ask me anything you need to know about Concept 3/4K systems. :D
     
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    Alternative Ness Alarm?

    Thanks for the advice. I've had an installer telling me to go for a Vision 64 as well, apparently it has a low voltage output that can be used with a bus coupler. But the Comfort sounds excellent. Thanks again,
     
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    Ask me anything you need to know about Concept 3/4K systems...

    Thanks for the invitation! There seems to be conflicting messages re connecting the Inner Range to C-Bus, so: what is the best way to integrate the Inner Range 3000 or 4000 to C-Bus for a 10,000 sq ft facility needing around 30 inputs? It has c-bus lighting on one C-Bus network including a 5500PC.

    I'm told we'd want the 4000 both for the bigger 128 chip and for better on-board features. True?

    Also the lady of the house has #$^%%& cats so the sensors need to be pet-proof. Is it a dumb idea to use these sensors for lighting control- I'm told even the newest digital petproof sensors are way too slow.

    Thanks!
     
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    Yes you will require a Concept 4000 for the interface with C-bus to be enabled with a uart board and c-bus PCI.

    When using security sensors through th alarm system to turn on lights there is a delay of 1 to 2 seconds from pick up to the light turnning on and depends how you program the concept panel you can put a lot of unnecessary traffic onto the network.
     
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    Rossco, thanks for the response. I don't like sound of the unnecessary traffic risk if the Concept panel is misprogrammed. What sort of traffic do you mean?
     
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    You have to be careful when you program the system to turn on a c-bus group ONCE the sensor picks you up for the delayed time period and not every time the sensor picks you up as I have seen other people do as this sends out commands to the network every time. (not good)

    We use the system on nearly every cbus job we do and works great.
     
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    Thanks, Rossco.

    I'd also appreciate advice about chips. I'm advised I may need the 512 chip for the size of install if I want lots of C-Bus interfacing. If I've got 30 sensors on an Inner range 4000, how many different c-bus interactions can I reasonably expect to action? I've tried to look it up but can't find anything specific on this topic.
     
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    on the 128k chip you get 16 cbus virtual auxiliaries.
    on the 512k chip you can have up to 128 (depending on config chosen)

    each virtual aux is configured to switch a cbus group on when the concept aux turns on and another (or the same one) when it turns off.

    the more cbus groups you want to control, the more concept virtual aux's you will need.

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