C-Bus Forums http://www.cbusforums.com/forums This is a discussion forum for Hardware and Software products for the Clipsal C-Bus and Square D Clipsal lighting control systems en Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:57:38 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg C-Bus Forums http://www.cbusforums.com/forums Sub Pages Time/out http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6298&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:05:30 GMT I need a way of timing out a Sub Page when it is used in the popup mode so the Sub Page does not stay there for ever, the example include in Piced stays there. Suggestion. Have the same time out settings as a normal page but only enable on Sub Pages used in popup mode, when used in a fix mode... I need a way of timing out a Sub Page when it is used in the popup mode so the Sub Page does not stay there for ever, the example include in Piced stays there.

Suggestion.
Have the same time out settings as a normal page but only enable on Sub Pages used in popup mode, when used in a fix mode disable the timeout.

As a work around, can I use the logic to detect the Sub Page is pop upped and start a timer that goes back to the pop down mode ??

tks
dave ]]> C-Touch/HomeGate/SchedulePlus/PICED Dave Byron http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6298 5500PC looses connection http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6297&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:08:26 GMT Our installer asks if it is normal: AMX with C-Bus works using Open Protocols and 5500PC. But when power down occurs, it does not restore the connection. What helps - is to open PC interface using C-Bus Toolkit and after that connect to AMX again. Anything could be done here? thank you Our installer asks if it is normal:

AMX with C-Bus works using Open Protocols and 5500PC. But when power down occurs, it does not restore the connection. What helps - is to open PC interface using C-Bus Toolkit and after that connect to AMX again.

Anything could be done here?
thank you ]]> General Discussion nickrusanov http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6297 Help with a Thermostat installation http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6296&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:37:49 GMT I just installed a C-bus thermostat without relays, more for playing with wiser and less for a necessity. I have a 8ch Relay unit that is used just for controlling water heater (1 ch the recirculation pump, 1ch the boiler and 1 ch the auxiliary electric heating element), and I thought that it... I just installed a C-bus thermostat without relays, more for playing with wiser and less for a necessity.
I have a 8ch Relay unit that is used just for controlling water heater (1 ch the recirculation pump, 1ch the boiler and 1 ch the auxiliary electric heating element), and I thought that it would be nice to use it for the thermostat too.
However, I have to change the application from lighting to hvac.

1. If I do that, is there a way to control these 3 channels from my NEO units since they will be in different application, or I will control them only by my MARK I touch screen ?

2. I tried unsuccessfully to add a climate widget on the wiser just for viewing the room temperature. Is this because I haven't related my thermostat το a relay channel or I should try harder? ]]> General Discussion 2SC http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6296 Sub Pages http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6295&goto=newpost Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:01:20 GMT Hi Long time viewer, first time poster..... I am looking to add a drop down menu on my schedule + page.....i would like to either hover over an item or click a link on the page and a magical drop down menu appear which would allow me to click on the desired sub page or link on that menu ..... is... Hi Long time viewer, first time poster.....
I am looking to add a drop down menu on my schedule + page.....i would like to either hover over an item or click a link on the page and a magical drop down menu appear which would allow me to click on the desired sub page or link on that menu ..... is this possible?? ]]> C-Touch/HomeGate/SchedulePlus/PICED Mike Jones http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6295 Fan controller...finally? http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6294&goto=newpost Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:32:51 GMT Toolkit now has this: Ceiling Sweep Fan Controller, catalogue number SLC5501RFCP Is this really coming, or is it the Aussie version of an April fools joke? :) From poking around, it seems to indicate that the (long awaited) new product might update the label on a DLT to indicate the fan... Toolkit now has this:

Ceiling Sweep Fan Controller, catalogue number SLC5501RFCP

Is this really coming, or is it the Aussie version of an April fools joke? :)

From poking around, it seems to indicate that the (long awaited) new product might update the label on a DLT to indicate the fan speed? ]]> Other C-Bus Hardware nexp http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6294 How old is too old. http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6293&goto=newpost Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:08:06 GMT I just bought 2 x 5002RL20 via distribution. They are different colours and have different terminal blocks. After looking some more One is manufactured 28/8/2002 the other is 11 May 2009 (one came in a blue box the other in a white) Looks like 1 is very old stock. this one has the... I just bought 2 x 5002RL20 via distribution.

They are different colours and have different terminal blocks.

After looking some more

One is manufactured 28/8/2002 the other is 11 May 2009 (one came in a blue box the other in a white)


Looks like 1 is very old stock. this one has the old back small terminals
The relay driver side the holes are lined up with the terminals but on the relay side the terminals seem a little high. (see picture attached)
The other problem is I hate these old terminals and very hard to get 4mm cable in these as this is a 20A circuit.

1) I assume this still comes with full warrany.
2) I know this is just a relay but 8 years old stock seem too old to be selling.

Can I return to distribution to get a newer model ? with the better terminals or do I have to do this via clipsal.

Charles
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]]> Other C-Bus Hardware Charlie Crackle http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6293 Multiple stanalone amplifier in 1 network http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6292&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:10:05 GMT Dear All, Can I use 2 Audio Distribution Units for amplifier standalone installtion (*no matrix switch*) in 1 C-Bus network? In installation instruction doccuments, it says: + If more than 1 Amplifiers connected in serial, it should be set 1 to be master. + Maximum 8 amplifiers can connect... Dear All,

Can I use 2 Audio Distribution Units for amplifier standalone installtion (no matrix switch) in 1 C-Bus network?

In installation instruction doccuments, it says:
+ If more than 1 Amplifiers connected in serial, it should be set 1 to be master.
+ Maximum 8 amplifiers can connect in serial and cable length limit to 45m.

In my installation, I use 3 Audio Distribution Units, each Audio Distribution Units follow by 3 amplifiers in serial.

My problems is:
+ I can only set 1 amplifier to be Master - instead of 3 Master - Each master for 1 music line from Audio Distribution Units.
+ If I adjust volume for the Master, volume of all other amplifier also change.

Would you please advise how to solve this problem.

Thanks and Best regards,
BigBoyVn ]]> Multi-Room Audio (MRA) and MARPA BigBoyVn http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6292 Schedule Edit - Once only, System IO http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6291&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:47:37 GMT Using system IOs to modify a schedule works very well. However, I can't see a way to set the date for a schedule that operates once only.

The client wants to set a schedule that happens every now and then. So the ability to turn it ON at a certain date and the ability to turn OFF on a different date is required. Is this possible? If not, can this be added?

Its about the demand, so if you wish this feature was available add a post :) ]]> C-Touch/HomeGate/SchedulePlus/PICED Memphix http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6291 Touch Screen Temerature Updates http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6290&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:05:06 GMT We have a residential installation with 4 CTCs and several Mark IIs which each have Thermostat controls for 6 single-zone Thermostats. The CTCs each have 6 different pages with controls for one zone per page. The MIIs have only one zone of temp control each. There are 4 networks in the project,... We have a residential installation with 4 CTCs and several Mark IIs which each have Thermostat controls for 6 single-zone Thermostats. The CTCs each have 6 different pages with controls for one zone per page. The MIIs have only one zone of temp control each. There are 4 networks in the project, with Touch Screens and Thermostats residing on only 2 of the networks. (all thermostats on 254, along with a couple touch screens and the rest of the touch screens on 253)

The issue we're having is the temperature updates are intermittently not going to other touch screens if there is a set-point change. This seems to be true regardless of whether the messages are crossing the bridge or not. For example, two touch screens on the same network - both can control HVAC Zone 1. Touch screen 1's set-point is changed from 80 degrees to 78 degrees. Touch screen 2 still says the zone's set-point is 80 degrees. When the temperature in the space actually changes to 78, the originating touch screen will show accurate current temp, but other touch screens may still be showing the original 80 deg. set-point and 80 deg. temp.

This seems to be random, in that it doesn't happen all the time and may or may not happen on more than one touch screen (i.e. some may update correctly, while others do not).

Any thoughts on what may keep the HVAC messages from updating Touch Screens?

-Duke ]]> C-Touch/HomeGate/SchedulePlus/PICED Duke D http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6290 Cabling from Meter box to C-bus distribution cabinet http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6289&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:44:48 GMT Hello there, I am about to wire my first c-bus install. I have done the c-bus basic training etc and got the certificate. I will probably have 2 C-Bus cabinets - one on the groung floor and one on the first floor. Each cab will have 2 din rails, one for dimmers and one for relays. I plan to... Hello there,
I am about to wire my first c-bus install.
I have done the c-bus basic training etc and got the certificate.
I will probably have 2 C-Bus cabinets - one on the groung floor and one on the first floor. Each cab will have 2 din rails, one for dimmers and one for relays.
I plan to split the power to these two cabinets over 2 circuits from the meter box and was going to run 2.5M twin and earth to power each cabinet protected by a 20amp breaker at the meter box and label the MCBs - C-bus,1 and C-bus,2. I was then planning to install a combination MCB/ELCB at the C-bus cabs to protect each din rail ie one for the dimmers and one for the relays.
These would be 10amp each.
I woukld then run all power circuits to each light using 1.5M T&E.
Can anyone (experienced) tell me if this is compliant and/or a better method?
Thanks
Graham ]]> General Discussion Graham Hobbs http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6289 Using Toolkit in a virtual machine http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6288&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:16:46 GMT I currently have Toolkit running on a dedicated PC connected to the C-Bus network via a serial interface, but the old PC is only used for configuring the network and is proving to be an unreliable piece of junk.

I'm contemplating replacing the C-Bus serial interface with an ethernet interface (5500) and running Toolkit in a VMware virtual machine on one of the Macs. The VMware VM can see everything on the LAN, so there don't appear to be any LAN issues that would prevent me from seeing the ethernet interface.

Does anyone have any experience in doing this? Any advice and guidance gratefully received. ]]> C-Bus Toolkit/C-Gate Clarke http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6288 looking for help with CBUS on linux http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6287&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:41:10 GMT Hi all,

I'm trying to get CBUS up and running from linux. So far this post has been very helpful:

http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/sho...ighlight=linux

I have a few additional questions I'd like to toss out to the group here.

The first step was to get my unit addresses set, since they all come from the factory set to $FF. It seems like the only way to do this is via the windows-based CBUS Toolkit software. I've been looking for a simpler, non-GUI way to do this, but I haven't found one yet.

I did get C-Gate running on linux, and the toolkit seems to use C-Gate for communication, so that leads one to believe that there should be a way to set unit addresses directly from C-Gate. The docs don't give any clue as to how that would be done, though, so any help there would be appreciated.

The first device I set up was a 4-channel relay, which leads me to my next question: Is there no way to access the terminals directly, without first assigning each one to a group? Group assignment is another manual step in the CBUS Toolkit that I'd rather avoid. I'm hoping to find a way to do that either through C-Gate or directly through the serial protocol if possible.

So after going ahead and using the toolkit to set up the groups for the relay, I'm now to the point where I can open a socket connection to the CNI and send simple commands like this:

\\0538007900\r

...to turn on Group 0, which turns on relay 1. So far so good.

The next step is to be able to retrieve the state of the relay terminals. There doesn't seem to be a way to query the state of a group, and that probably doesn't make any sense anyway since a group could reference any number of switches that may be in different states. But is there a way to query the relay unit directly to get the terminal state? This is where I'm stuck at the moment.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for reading.

- Jason ]]> General Discussion jhickner http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6287 Pascal Automation Controller as PC I http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6286&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:07:06 GMT Hi, first post, so as usual, be reasonably gentle!

I have searched the forums and scowered the internet for a few answers about CNI, PACA, and PCI.

I am trying to find the 'basic' pros and cons for using these particular products as the PACA and CNI can also be used as a PC interface.

I have probably asked a stupid question, but hopefully someone can point me in the correct direction, and one day I can do the same.

I should also point out, the reason I am asking, is that I also intend to run Charmed Quark.

Kind regards,
Hal ]]> C-Touch/HomeGate/SchedulePlus/PICED yellowfunbus http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6286 ToolKit Tag File http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6285&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:06:08 GMT I want create "As Built" documentation from a toolkit project file in c-gate TAGS.
I wish to import the information into MS Access 2007. Is there any information around that would assist in this?
We already have a Database System we use to produce custom records, which we manually enter the information. I want to now use the c-gate xml file to import automatically ]]> C-Bus Toolkit/C-Gate sjfp http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6285 Wiser DDNS http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6284&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:14:29 GMT Hi Guys, I have had 5 or so sites loose the DDNS even though it is setup and enabled. Does anyone have info on if the Wisers DDNS client syncs every day or only when the connection changes (ie IP address) my test setup is working fine but dont have DDNS running in wiser.(I trust my billion a... Hi Guys,

I have had 5 or so sites loose the DDNS even though it is setup and enabled.

Does anyone have info on if the Wisers DDNS client syncs every day or only when the connection changes (ie IP address) my test setup is working fine but dont have DDNS running in wiser.(I trust my billion a bit more!)

These have a up time of > 40 days without reboot. The free DDNS runs out after 30 days of no updates. (Stable Wiser's !Woot :D). ]]> Other C-Bus Hardware constantcharge http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6284