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Katz
10 Jan 05, 09:29 PM
When will the new C-Touch be available to buy???

I need to rough-in wiring for one, what should I be runing to it???

Is there a wall box available yet to mount into brick wall???

Katz

:confused:

Darren
11 Jan 05, 12:40 PM
I assume you are talking about the colour C-Touch.

We can't comment on product release dates. The wall box is not available yet.

The colour C-Touch has two connections to it :
- C-Bus
- Power from a plug pack which is supplied with the colour C-Touch. The wires for this are roughly 4m long.

Richo
11 Jan 05, 01:36 PM
I assume you are talking about the colour C-Touch.

We can't comment on product release dates. The wall box is not available yet.

The colour C-Touch has two connections to it :
- C-Bus
- Power from a plug pack which is supplied with the colour C-Touch. The wires for this are roughly 4m long.

There is also various other plugs on the unit (eg. LAN, Audio, IR etc..) but I don't want to clarrify any further as I'm not sure what is official or not

yzf250
11 Jan 05, 07:38 PM
I have a provisional wiring word doc if you want it. Just lays out wiring and type for pre-wire for the colour screen.

Katz
11 Jan 05, 07:59 PM
Thanks fellas

I would appreciate and info on color C-Touch

Phil.H
12 Jan 05, 07:27 AM
Thanks fellas

I would appreciate and info on color C-Touch

F.K.

As a minimum run the following cables.
1 x C-Bus Pink
1 x Figure 8 (make this one a decent guage and quality- power supply)
2 x Cat5/6 blue.
1 x RG59 (75ohm coax - composite video)

If you want to cover all bases for the future you could add.
1-2 x shielded audio cables
second RG 59 coax.

PROVISIONAL WALL BOX DIMENSIONS
224 W
167 H
68 D

Make sure you start to play with Homegate so you will be up to speed when it comes to program the thing.....
;)

Duncan
12 Jan 05, 09:06 AM
1 x C-Bus Pink
1 x Figure 8 (make this one a decent guage and quality- power supply)
2 x Cat5/6 blue.
1 x RG59 (75ohm coax - composite video)


The power doesnt seem right (amongst other things), let me check with the Design Team on the project and I'll try and post more definite information shortly.

Duncan
12 Jan 05, 09:12 AM
In the meantime.. install a good quality draw wire :)

ashleigh
12 Jan 05, 09:18 AM
The power supply is a plug pack / plug adaptor, with a special connector on the cable coming out of it that only goes into the colour touchscreen.

You will need to mount this power supply somewhere and run the cable to the touchscreen.

Duncans advice to pre-install a good draw wire is VERY good advice.

If going into timber / stud / frame walls, make sure you drill out TWO holes for running cables that way you cannot go wrong.

If going into brick, its a bit more difficult to pre-plan / pre-wire. Off the top of my head, I'd suggest a maybe conduit would be a good idea.

The power supply connector is APPROXIMATELY 1 cm x 1 cm x 3.5 cm long, so make sure you can get that pulled through AS WELL as all the other cables.

Richo
12 Jan 05, 09:26 AM
1 x C-Bus Pink
2 x Cat5/6 blue.


Hmmm... no point running 2 x Cat 5/6 blue as there is only one LAN port, however there are 2 C-Bus ports so you might want 2 x C-Bus Pink cables to wire the unit in series on the bus.

Actually there is 2 lan ports, but one is behind the face of the unit for programming and not accessable via the installation cabling anyway.

Darren
12 Jan 05, 10:22 AM
Please note that you should not use any power wiring for the colour C-Touch other than the cable that forms part of the plug pack.

The use of other wiring may damage the colour C-Touch or cause unreliable operation.

The best advice is to install your C-Bus cable and a draw wire. When you receive your colour C-Touch, draw the power wire through.

Josh
20 Jan 05, 10:20 PM
I am trying to pre-plan for two colour touch screens both in a brick walls. :confused:

If I run a conduit to the location and a gap 224 x 167 x 68 (W X H X D). will that be safe?

What I am trying to find out is, will there be a wall box (where the touch screen will be mounted, like the current mono touchscreen) or is it just one unit (which does not require a wall box)?

I am also thinking of putting the touch screen power supply in the celing and running the power cable in the same conduit as the cat5, will that be right?

Darren
21 Jan 05, 10:18 AM
There will be a wallbox, but the size has not been finalised.

It should be fine to run the DC power cable down the same conduit as the C-Bus cable.

Josh
21 Jan 05, 03:29 PM
There will be a wallbox, but the size has not been finalised.

It should be fine to run the DC power cable down the same conduit as the C-Bus cable.


Would you recommend I increase the gap in the wall or leave it as gap 224 x 167 x 68 (W X H X D)? :confused:

ashleigh
22 Jan 05, 09:54 PM
Cannot comment about the wallbox, but make sure that when you put conduit in with any cables already through it, make sure you can get a BIG connector drawn down. The power connector is square and long - about 1x1x3 cm. So you need to be able to draw something BIGGER than 1x1 cm through, over and above any existing cables in the conduit.

[IL]NewGen
24 Jan 05, 12:43 PM
When i get my hands on one i'll mount it in my room... :D what ?! You think i'm joking ?!

Josh
24 Jan 05, 03:17 PM
Cannot comment about the wallbox, but make sure that when you put conduit in with any cables already through it, make sure you can get a BIG connector drawn down. The power connector is square and long - about 1x1x3 cm. So you need to be able to draw something BIGGER than 1x1 cm through, over and above any existing cables in the conduit.

Does it come with a normal power supply which would have a + and -, in which case you can just cut the connector and just draw the cable and then join the cable again?

Secondly how long will the power supply cable be, can it be easily extended?

ashleigh
24 Jan 05, 06:14 PM
It does not come with a "normal" power supply connector - its specialised, the length of the cable is fixed (4m I think but don't hold me to that). DO NOT cut the cable and re-join. BAD BAD BAD. The power supply is carefully matched to the unit. Any cutting and re-joining COULD increase the cable resistance which would throw things right out of whack.