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damian.flynn

01 Jul 08, 07:57 AM

Hi,

While i was creating scenes in the PAC and trying to get these to trigger from the saturn or the toolkit, I was going nowhere fast.

I opened the log windows using PICED to see whats going on and I have discoverd that the Sarturns are indeed trasmitting the Scene trigger request, and even breaking down the groups and levels per group; but these all fail saying the network is offline.

I can resolve this with a cgate command

open network 254
set 254 autosync yes

then wait about 60 seconds and Bang we have action. - So why do i need to do this? what would cause the systems to go offline? I have a single network, with about 30 devices.

I went to bed last night with the network online, and tested a scene from a saturn again about 18 hours later - still happy. then when it got dark, I went again to trigger the scene, and nothing.

I had left PICED open but disconnected; and Cgate running in the background of the management PC.

Any clues to whats happening, or workarounds to keep me online?

this is the log for reference

6/30/2008 10:12:36 PM C-Gate : Rx "#e# 20080630-221236 754 //DIGINERV/254 49b2d930-d83d-102a-b6f9-9186e2996a4f State=sync Previous=error Reason=closing network"
6/30/2008 10:12:36 PM C-Gate : Network 254 (Local Network) changed state to sync - (closing network)
6/30/2008 10:12:36 PM C-Gate : Rx "#e# 20080630-221236 754 //DIGINERV/254 49b2d930-d83d-102a-b6f9-9186e2996a4f State=new Previous=sync Reason=Interface Closed"
6/30/2008 10:12:36 PM C-Gate : Network 254 (Local Network) changed state to new - (Interface Closed)
6/30/2008 10:12:37 PM C-Gate : Rx "[574] 200 OK: //DIGINERV/254"
6/30/2008 10:12:37 PM C-Gate : All Networks Closed
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM Info : Connect to C-Gate at 127.0.0.1
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Rx "201 Service ready: Clipsal C-Gate Version: v2.6.1 (build 2242) #cmd-syntax=1.0"
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Version 2.6, build 2242 OK
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Opening networks 254
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Tx "[575]project use DIGINERV"
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Rx "[575] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Tx "[576]config set speed-write yes"
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Tx "[577]config set sync-fast-pci yes"
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Tx "[578]event e7s0c0"
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Tx "[579]session_id"
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Rx "[576] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Rx "[577] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Rx "[578] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 10:12:42 PM C-Gate : Rx "[579] 300 sessionID=cmd15"
6/30/2008 10:12:43 PM Info : Start Power Fail Recovery
6/30/2008 10:12:43 PM Info : End Power Fail Recovery
6/30/2008 10:12:43 PM C-Gate : Tx "[580]show cbus networks"
6/30/2008 10:12:43 PM C-Gate : Rx "[580] 300 //DIGINERV/cbus: networks=254"
6/30/2008 10:12:43 PM C-Gate : Tx "[581]net open 254"
6/30/2008 10:12:43 PM C-Gate : Tx "[582]set 254 autosync yes"
6/30/2008 10:12:43 PM C-Gate : Rx "[581] 120-initializing"
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Rx "[581] 120-opening port"
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Rx "[581] 120-starting network threads"
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Rx "#e# 20080630-221245 754 //DIGINERV/254 49b2d930-d83d-102a-b6f9-9186e2996a4f State=sync Previous=new Reason=Interface Opened"
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Network 254 (Local Network) changed state to sync - (Interface Opened)
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Rx "[581] 120-pci reset"
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Rx "[581] 120-open complete"
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Rx "[581] 200 OK: //DIGINERV/254"
6/30/2008 10:12:45 PM C-Gate : Rx "[582] 200 OK: //DIGINERV/254"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "trigger event //DIGINERV/254/202/1 1 #sourceunit=13 OID=f2ae5d20-136b-102b-bba4-eb48f8b2f794"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Rx : Set Trigger Control, PAC-Scenes to Living - Watch TV Scene
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Set Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Tx : Set Kitchen [Cooking Area] Off (Received from C-Bus/Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene")
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Network 254 (Local Network) is off-line, command has been queued
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Tx : Ramp Kitchen [Display Cabinets] to 50% over 8s (Received from C-Bus/Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene")
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Network 254 (Local Network) is off-line, command has been queued
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Tx : Set Kitchen [Island] Off (Received from C-Bus/Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene")
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Network 254 (Local Network) is off-line, command has been queued
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Tx : Ramp Kitchen [Pelment] On over 8s (Received from C-Bus/Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene")
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Network 254 (Local Network) is off-line, command has been queued
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Tx : Set Kitchen [Sink Area] Off (Received from C-Bus/Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene")
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Network 254 (Local Network) is off-line, command has been queued
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Tx : Set Living Room [Chandeleer] Off (Received from C-Bus/Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene")
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Network 254 (Local Network) is off-line, command has been queued
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Bus Tx : Ramp Living Room [Table Lamps] to 80% over 8s (Received from C-Bus/Scene "Living - Watch TV Scene")
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM Info : Network 254 (Local Network) is off-line, command has been queued
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Tx "[583]off 254/56/49"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Tx "[584]ramp 254/56/74 127 8"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Tx "[585]off 254/56/52"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Tx "[586]ramp 254/56/37 255 8"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Tx "[587]off 254/56/50"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Tx "[588]off 254/56/60"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Tx "[589]ramp 254/56/13 204 8"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "[583] 408 Operation failed: //DIGINERV/254/56/49"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "[584] 408 Operation failed: //DIGINERV/254/56/74"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "[585] 408 Operation failed: //DIGINERV/254/56/52"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "[586] 408 Operation failed: //DIGINERV/254/56/37"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "[587] 408 Operation failed: //DIGINERV/254/56/50"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "[588] 408 Operation failed: //DIGINERV/254/56/60"
6/30/2008 10:12:58 PM C-Gate : Rx "[589] 408 Operation failed: //DIGINERV/254/56/13"
6/30/2008 10:14:30 PM C-Gate : Tx User Command "net open 254"
6/30/2008 10:14:30 PM C-Gate : Tx "[590]net open 254"
6/30/2008 10:14:30 PM C-Gate : Rx "[590] 200 OK: //DIGINERV/254"
6/30/2008 10:14:41 PM C-Gate : Tx User Command "set 254 autosync yes"
6/30/2008 10:14:41 PM C-Gate : Tx "[591]set 254 autosync yes"
6/30/2008 10:14:41 PM C-Gate : Rx "[591] 200 OK: //DIGINERV/254"
6/30/2008 10:14:48 PM C-Gate : Rx "#e# 20080630-221448 754 //DIGINERV/254 49b2d930-d83d-102a-b6f9-9186e2996a4f State=ok Previous=sync Reason=Sync finished"
6/30/2008 10:14:48 PM C-Gate : Network 254 (Local Network) changed state to ok - (Sync finished)
6/30/2008 10:14:48 PM C-Gate : C-Gate Network Sync Complete

damian.flynn

01 Jul 08, 08:59 AM

Hmm,

Its happened again, I am seeing Errors but no idea why...

6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Start Log
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM PICED properties :
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Version 4.3.0.0
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Project "c:\clipsal\projects\diginerv\diginerv.ctd", 6/29/2008 9:25:34 PM
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Command-line : "C:\Clipsal\PICED\PICED.exe"
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Info : Computer Properties :
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Info : Name : FRODO
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Info : Operating System : Windows NT 5.1 build 2600
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Info : Total Memory : 1214MB
6/30/2008 11:22:08 PM Info : Free Memory : 741MB
6/30/2008 11:22:17 PM C-Gate : Tx User Command "open network 254"
6/30/2008 11:22:34 PM C-Gate : Tx User Command "set 254 autosync yes"
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM Info : Connect to C-Gate at 127.0.0.1
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Rx "201 Service ready: Clipsal C-Gate Version: v2.6.1 (build 2242) #cmd-syntax=1.0"
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Version 2.6, build 2242 OK
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Opening networks 254
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Tx "[4]project use DIGINERV"
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Rx "[4] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Tx "[5]config set speed-write yes"
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Tx "[6]config set sync-fast-pci yes"
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Tx "[7]event e7s0c0"
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Tx "[8]session_id"
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Rx "[5] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Rx "[6] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Rx "[7] 200 OK."
6/30/2008 11:23:05 PM C-Gate : Rx "[8] 300 sessionID=cmd21"
6/30/2008 11:23:06 PM Info : Start Power Fail Recovery
6/30/2008 11:23:06 PM Info : End Power Fail Recovery
6/30/2008 11:23:06 PM C-Gate : Tx "[9]show cbus networks"
6/30/2008 11:23:06 PM C-Gate : Rx "[9] 300 //DIGINERV/cbus: networks=254"
6/30/2008 11:23:06 PM C-Gate : Tx "[10]net open 254"
6/30/2008 11:23:06 PM C-Gate : Tx "[11]set 254 autosync yes"
6/30/2008 11:23:06 PM C-Gate : Rx "[10] 120-initializing"
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Rx "[10] 120-opening port"
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Rx "[10] 120-starting network threads"
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Rx "#e# 20080630-232308 754 //DIGINERV/254 49b2d930-d83d-102a-b6f9-9186e2996a4f State=sync Previous=new Reason=Interface Opened"
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Network 254 (Local Network) changed state to sync - (Interface Opened)
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Rx "[10] 120-pci reset"
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Rx "[10] 120-open complete"
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Rx "[10] 200 OK: //DIGINERV/254"
6/30/2008 11:23:08 PM C-Gate : Rx "[11] 200 OK: //DIGINERV/254"
6/30/2008 11:23:52 PM C-Gate : Rx "#e# 20080630-232352 754 //DIGINERV/254 49b2d930-d83d-102a-b6f9-9186e2996a4f State=error Previous=sync Reason=no response (CAL)"
6/30/2008 11:23:52 PM C-Gate : Network 254 (Local Network) changed state to error - (no response (CAL))
6/30/2008 11:24:52 PM C-Gate : Tx "[12]get 254 state"
6/30/2008 11:24:52 PM C-Gate : Rx "[12] 300 //DIGINERV/254: state=error"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "#e# 20080630-232533 754 //DIGINERV/254 49b2d930-d83d-102a-b6f9-9186e2996a4f State=ok Previous=error Reason=Sync finished"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Network 254 (Local Network) changed state to ok - (Sync finished)
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : C-Gate Network Sync Complete
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Tx "[13]tree 254"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Network name:254 type=Serial address=COM9 state=ok"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Unit count=32"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Units:"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/1 ($1) type=PCINT4 app=255($ff),255($ff) state=ok groups="
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/2 ($2) type=PC_PACA app=255($ff),255($ff) state=ok groups="
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/3 ($3) type=DIMDN8 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/4 ($4) type=DIMDN8 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/5 ($5) type=DIMDN8 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=17,19,18,20,74,22,33,24"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/6 ($6) type=DIMDN8 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=25,26,27,28,29,30,31"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/7 ($7) type=DIMDN8 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=34,35,36,37,38,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/8 ($8) type=DIMDN8 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/9 ($9) type=DIMDN8 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=49,50,51,52,53,54,55,62"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/10 ($a) type=DIMDN4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=57,58,59,60"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/11 ($b) type=RELDN12 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=61,56,63,23,65,66"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/12 ($c) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=15,23,17,14,38,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/13 ($d) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),202($ca) state=ok groups=53"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/14 ($e) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=25,24"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/15 ($f) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=28,35,30,26,27,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/16 ($10) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=19,16,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/17 ($11) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=8,9"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/18 ($12) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=14,12"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/19 ($13) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),202($ca) state=ok groups=34,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/20 ($14) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=10,11"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/21 ($15) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=36,47"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/22 ($16) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),202($ca) state=ok groups=41,31,42,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/23 ($17) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=53,57,35,58,64,59,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/24 ($18) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=44,29"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/25 ($19) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=40,56,61"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/26 ($1a) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=66,18"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/27 ($1b) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=55,39,38"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/28 ($1c) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=4,3"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/29 ($1d) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=2,5,1,4,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/30 ($1e) type=KEYB6 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=7,63,6,10,39,40"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/31 ($1f) type=KEYB4 app=56($38),255($ff) state=ok groups=46,22,45"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-//DIGINERV/254/p/32 ($20) type=INT_ELK app=208($d0),56($38) state=ok groups="
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320-Applications:"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Application 56 ($38) [lighting]"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Groups:"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/0 ($0) level=0 state=ok units= (phantom)"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/1 ($1) level=0 state=ok units=3,29 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/2 ($2) level=0 state=ok units=3,29 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/3 ($3) level=0 state=ok units=3,28 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/4 ($4) level=0 state=ok units=3,28,29 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/5 ($5) level=0 state=ok units=3,29 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/6 ($6) level=0 state=ok units=3,30 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/7 ($7) level=0 state=ok units=3,30 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/8 ($8) level=0 state=ok units=3,17 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/9 ($9) level=0 state=ok units=4,17 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/10 ($a) level=0 state=ok units=4,20,30 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/11 ($b) level=0 state=ok units=4,20 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/12 ($c) level=0 state=ok units=4,18 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/13 ($d) level=204 state=ok units=4 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/14 ($e) level=0 state=ok units=4,12,18 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/15 ($f) level=0 state=ok units=4,12 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/16 ($10) level=0 state=ok units=4,16 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/17 ($11) level=0 state=ok units=5,12 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/18 ($12) level=0 state=ok units=5,26 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/19 ($13) level=0 state=ok units=5,16 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/20 ($14) level=0 state=ok units=5 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/22 ($16) level=0 state=ok units=5,31 (phantom)"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/23 ($17) level=0 state=ok units=11,12 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/24 ($18) level=0 state=ok units=5,14 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/25 ($19) level=0 state=ok units=6,14 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/26 ($1a) level=0 state=ok units=6,15 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/27 ($1b) level=0 state=ok units=6,15 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/28 ($1c) level=0 state=ok units=6,15 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/29 ($1d) level=0 state=ok units=6,24 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/30 ($1e) level=0 state=ok units=6,15 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/31 ($1f) level=0 state=ok units=6,22 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/33 ($21) level=0 state=ok units=5 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/34 ($22) level=0 state=ok units=7,19 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/35 ($23) level=0 state=ok units=7,15,23 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/36 ($24) level=0 state=ok units=7,21 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/37 ($25) level=255 state=ok units=7 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/38 ($26) level=0 state=ok units=7,12,27 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/39 ($27) level=0 state=ok units=7,12,15,16,19,22,23,27,29,30 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/40 ($28) level=0 state=ok units=7,12,15,16,19,22,23,25,29,30 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/41 ($29) level=0 state=ok units=8,22 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/42 ($2a) level=0 state=ok units=8,22 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/43 ($2b) level=0 state=ok units=8 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/44 ($2c) level=0 state=ok units=8,24 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/45 ($2d) level=0 state=ok units=8,31 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/46 ($2e) level=129 state=ok units=8,31 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/47 ($2f) level=0 state=ok units=8,21 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/48 ($30) level=0 state=ok units=8 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/49 ($31) level=0 state=ok units=9 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/50 ($32) level=0 state=ok units=9 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/51 ($33) level=0 state=ok units=9 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/52 ($34) level=0 state=ok units=9 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/53 ($35) level=0 state=ok units=9,13,23 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/54 ($36) level=0 state=ok units=9 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/55 ($37) level=0 state=ok units=9,27 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/56 ($38) level=0 state=ok units=11,25 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/57 ($39) level=0 state=ok units=10,23 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/58 ($3a) level=0 state=ok units=10,23 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/59 ($3b) level=0 state=ok units=10,23 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/60 ($3c) level=0 state=ok units=10 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/61 ($3d) level=0 state=ok units=11,25 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/62 ($3e) level=0 state=ok units=9 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/63 ($3f) level=0 state=ok units=11,30 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/64 ($40) level=0 state=ok units=23 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/65 ($41) level=0 state=ok units=11 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/66 ($42) level=0 state=ok units=11,26 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/56/74 ($4a) level=127 state=ok units=5 "
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Application 202 ($ca) [trigger]"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Net Vars:"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/202/1 ($1) level=2 state=ok"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Application 208 ($d0) [security]"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- Net Vars:"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/208/18 ($12) level=0 state=ok"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320- //DIGINERV/254/208/81 ($51) level=0 state=ok"
6/30/2008 11:25:33 PM C-Gate : Rx "[13] 320 -end-"
6/30/2008 11:26:46 PM Info : Time-out

damian.flynn

02 Jul 08, 07:25 AM

This is offically driving me nuts, and not helping WAF at the moment.

The fix is easy now i know how, but i would love to understand the reason its failing. Looking at the tree i see i have application 208 running, which i do not understand, this network is 100% lighing only with a elk to cbus module to bridge the technologies. [this bridge works well enought but we have a few miss shots and the power up sequence is pretty important if its going to work at all - not sure if that should be the case].

can any guru out there point me in the rigth direction, i dont mind a hard read, if i knew what was the correct thing to read.

thanks
damian

Richo

02 Jul 08, 08:14 AM

While i was creating scenes in the PAC and trying to get these to trigger from the saturn or the toolkit

Once the PAC is programmed and running it has no dependency on C-Gate so it should operate regardless of the C-Gate network state.

You have to physically unplug the USB cable to ensure the PAC goes into "run" mode. To be sure you could even power cycle the PAC.

Back to you C-gate issue... Piced cannot be left for long period in "run" mode as it will "stop running" as it's designed for commissioning and not operational control. There isn't enough information in the logs to determine why you C-Gate network is closing (Maybe this is something Piced is doing?? I'm not sure).

An "event level 9 log" would probably answer the question as to why C-Gate closed the network. The CGate Manual ( http://www2.clipsal.com/cis/technica...ools#Cgatedoco (http://www2.clipsal.com/cis/technical/downloads/developer_tools#Cgatedoco) ) covers how to do this in the following section:
Code:
Reference|Command and Monitoring Interfaces|Event Interface|Logging with C-Gate

The snippets of log you did post indicated that the network had been in an error state, but the bit that tells you why was missing in the snippet.

Darren

02 Jul 08, 10:35 AM

Looking at the tree i see i have application 208 running, which i do not understand, this network is 100% lighing only with a elk to cbus module to bridge the technologies.
Application 208 is the Security Application which is being used by the Elk security panel.

damian.flynn

02 Jul 08, 08:32 PM

Once the PAC is programmed and running it has no dependency on C-Gate so it should operate regardless of the C-Gate network state.

An "event level 9 log" would probably answer the question as to why C-Gate closed the network. The CGate Manual ( http://www2.clipsal.com/cis/technica...ools#Cgatedoco (http://www2.clipsal.com/cis/technical/downloads/developer_tools#Cgatedoco) ) covers how to do this in the following section:
Code:
Reference|Command and Monitoring Interfaces|Event Interface|Logging with C-Gate

The snippets of log you did post indicated that the network had been in an error state, but the bit that tells you why was missing in the snippet.

Ah - Maigc, I will follow the steps here and get the logs set to level 9 to see whats happening. I actaully thought it was Ok to keep the USB connected all the time, but thanks for the clarification - i will unconnect this.
I also have a PCI device on the network, for Serial connection to the CQC software system which I have not yet configured, this is designed to be connected on that serial port all the time, and i am assuming thats Ok?.

I was using the USB port on the PACA for the 'Maangment and Programing' connection for both PICED and Toolkit, but never actually unpluged.

Once i get the logs and some more detail Ill repost the results. thank you again.

Application 208 is the Security Application which is being used by the Elk security panel.

Darren - thanks for this, I was guessing the ELK was linked to this, I guess that once the ELK module was detected then Applicaiton 208 automatically gets enabled on the network? - I have being able to use the ELK to trigger some lights [groups not scenes yet] on the CBUS, but now im curious to see if the CBUS Applicaiton 208 can tell the ELK to do things.... or if that applicaiton actaully has any value, apart from been required [i assume it is required]

thanks Guys.

ashleigh

02 Jul 08, 08:57 PM

Application 208 is required.

C-Bus Enabled security systems use Application 208 to send information on what the security system is doing (eg in Alarm, in Tamper, Zone states, etc).

There is also a limited amount of control available on this application, again, this control is available to C-Bus Enabled devices. For example you should find that a C-Bus Touch screen can do things to a C-Bus Enabled Security System. The magical glue that lets this happen is application 208.

Just accept that Application 208 is there, it is special, and don't try and fiddle with it. Fiddling.... it will all end in tears.

damian.flynn

03 Jul 08, 02:44 AM