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Does anyone know for sure when v3 Installation software will be available and if it will downloadable from the CIS site or this forum?
Ahh, there's rumours, there's speculation, there are hopes and wishlists. But no one knows anything for sure.
Hope that helped. :)
Duncan
29 Oct 04, 10:28 AM
Does anyone know for sure when v3 Installation software will be available and if it will downloadable from the CIS site or this forum?
Watch this space... especially later today.
Sounds mysterious! - I will wait on line with baited breath!
Sounds mysterious! - I will wait on line with baited breath!
not long now.... :D
Can't...
stand...
the...
suspense...
:eek:
Watch this space... especially later today.
We are eagerly watching :)
We are eagerly watching :)
Less than 60 minutes away ....
........................ :D
Less than 60 minutes away ....
Richo, that is cruel, it feels like days already. :eek:
But I guess we can wait 3600 seconds. :cool:
MichaelCarey
29 Oct 04, 04:52 PM
What are we waiting for :confused:
Who is coming, is it Gabbo??
Richo, that is cruel, it feels like days already. :eek:
But I guess we can wait 3600 seconds. :cool:
It's now ready ... http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332
........................ :D
Wait is over ... http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332
What are we waiting for :confused:
Who is coming, is it Gabbo??
not waiting anymore http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332
not waiting anymore http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332
I have started downloading 23.2 MB, cannot wait for the download to complete. :)
I wish I was just waiting for it to download.. I'm working out of the office and have to wait until Monday to use our broadband connection.
If anyone wants me I'll be at the pub. :)
I wish I was just waiting for it to download.. I'm working out of the office and have to wait until Monday to use our broadband connection.
If anyone wants me I'll be at the pub. :)
Got it, it looks :cool: .
Busy trying it out......
Peter, have one on me :D
Hayden_Fryer
01 Nov 04, 01:51 PM
...Need Migration Tool...
graeme
01 Nov 04, 10:38 PM
Well I downloaded it and installed it But I dont know how to use it ? :mad:
I was told this was going to make it easer to use but im not so sure, no help file for the software yet, will play with it in the morning I guess. Oh thats after I try and find out why our system will not turn off or on the lighting ccts in the Hospital (after I reset the time for Daylight saving) HO Hummm.
Not related but our Stanilite Exit system crashed after being updated and our Nurse Call System is causing my head to hurt !! after Staff Assist is pressed and it then sets off the Emegency call, What a Great Day Ive had with PCs and software.
Graeme Redman
Hospital Elect. :confused:
Well I downloaded it and installed it But I dont know how to use it ? :mad:
I was told this was going to make it easer to use but im not so sure, no help file for the software yet, will play with it in the morning I guess.
Hi Graeme,
The software is still beta so many things aren't complete or as optimal as they can be. The documentation is being written and will be made available when it's ready.
Meanwhile be sure to checkout the tutorials some of the dev guys have put together to give you a jump start.
http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28
However... it would be absolutely fantastic if you could write down what about the software you found confusing, things you misunderstood or in your view a re wrong etc... all of this can go a longway to allowing us to make the software easier to use. This sort of feedback is *very* valuable.
graeme
02 Nov 04, 11:19 AM
Hi Graeme,
However... it would be absolutely fantastic if you could write down what about the software you found confusing, things you misunderstood or in your view a re wrong etc... all of this can go a longway to allowing us to make the software easier to use. This sort of feedback is *very* valuable.
Well Richo thanks for the reply, for one thing I can not connect to the PCI so I can go no further ??
I have put it on three different PCs and can not connect, one has never had the cbus system on it.
If I use the older ver all is OK, I can log onto the network and view all items. The settings were setup the same Com 1 Serial connection but NO GO :confused:
Graeme,
Have a look in the C-Bus Toolkit Forum, there is a thread on network scan problems with the new software. Similar problems have been reported, and the CIS folk are looking into it. From Duncan's last post, it looks like he needs more info on the problem, perhaps you could help!
Duncan
02 Nov 04, 11:59 AM
Graeme,
Have a look in the C-Bus Toolkit Forum, there is a thread on network scan problems with the new software. Similar problems have been reported, and the CIS folk are looking into it. From Duncan's last post, it looks like he needs more info on the problem, perhaps you could help!
Yes we do have one other report.. some more information would indeed be helpful... PCI Firmware version.. error messages, what steps you're using to attempt the connection..
graeme
03 Nov 04, 07:49 AM
Will look up that thread on network scan problems but I have put down the info you wanted hope it helps.
Note: same results on three different PCs
laptop DELL 1 GIG with Win2000
Desktop PC 300MHZ win98
Desktop PC 200MHZ win98
SETUP DEFAULT LOCAL INTERFACE COM1 AND SERIAL CONNECTION.
PCI FIRMWARE:
How do I find this infomation ?
I can tell you it is a Clipsal PC Interface 5100PC Serial output RS232c 9600Baud
ERROR MESSAGES:
setup interface
Start software Scan for Networks
Scan Serial Ports ticked
Serial port Scan starts
Com1 scan complete PCI not found
Com2 scan complete PCI not found
Com3 scan complete Port in use
Com4 scan complete Port in use
ATTEMPTING TO CONNECT THROUGH SERIAL CONNECTION ON COM 1 DIRECTLY TO PC INTERFACE USING SERIAL CABLE
Using the same equipment but the old version 2.7.5 software, I can connect to Network with no problems ?
:confused:
Duncan
03 Nov 04, 07:53 AM
Will look up that thread on network scan problems but I have put down the info you wanted hope it helps.
Note: same results on three different PCs
laptop DELL 1 GIG with Win2000
Desktop PC 300MHZ win98
Desktop PC 200MHZ win98
SETUP DEFAULT LOCAL INTERFACE COM1 AND SERIAL CONNECTION.
PCI FIRMWARE:
How do I find this infomation ?
I can tell you it is a Clipsal PC Interface 5100PC Serial output RS232c 9600Baud
ERROR MESSAGES:
setup interface
Start software Scan for Networks
Scan Serial Ports ticked
Serial port Scan starts
Com1 scan complete PCI not found
Com2 scan complete PCI not found
Com3 scan complete Port in use
Com4 scan complete Port in use
ATTEMPTING TO CONNECT THROUGH SERIAL CONNECTION ON COM 1 DIRECTLY TO PC INTERFACE USING SERIAL CABLE
Using the same equipment but the old version 2.7.5 software, I can connect to Network with no problems ?
:confused:
Thanks Graeme,
It certainly appears related to your PCI..
Using 2.7.5 you can retrieve the firmware version by scanning the Network then opening up the programming interface for your PCI.. in the top left of your screen you'll see something like:
"PC_LOCAL Firmware Version 3.11" in a blue font..
Having the firmware version will really help us.
Thanks for taking the time to try it on 3 PC's.. much appreciated!
graeme
03 Nov 04, 09:40 AM
OK
The PC_LOCAL Firmware Version 3.06 This is on our Test Bed we use in the workshop
I forgot to tell you we have 3 systems here I guess I will need to check them all, and see what firmware is on there PC Interfaces . :D
regards
Graeme
Duncan
03 Nov 04, 09:41 AM
OK
The PC_LOCAL Firmware Version 3.06 This is on our Test Bed we use in the workshop
I forgot to tell you we have 3 systems here I guess I will need to check them all, and see what firmware is on there PC Interfaces . :D
regards
Graeme
OK thanks for that.. I'm having a 3.06 PCI built and we'll do some specific tests against it.
Duncan
03 Nov 04, 10:49 AM
OK thanks for that.. I'm having a 3.06 PCI built and we'll do some specific tests against it.
OK we built a 3.06 PCI and we've replicated this problem. This will be fixed ASAP. :o
graeme
03 Nov 04, 12:35 PM
:o Thanks just glad it was not something I had screwed up, keep me informed.
Graeme :)
Additional details on problems Allgo has.
Laptop ACER 291 LMI centrino. XP Home SP2
SETUP DEFAULT LOCAL INTERFACE COM4 Belkin USB/SERIAL Adaptor
have also tried and still currently using
SETUP DEFAULT LOCAL INTERFACE COM5 Generic USB/SERIAL Adaptor
PCI
5500 PC serial # 0081175008 firmware 4.1.00
ERROR MESSAGES:
Scan network - ERROR 4012 No Network could be found etc.
Default settings are correct.
Start software Scan for Networks
Scan Serial Ports ticked
Serial port Scan starts
Com3 scan complete Port in use
Com4/5 scan complete PCI not found
Sometimes on fourth or fifth rescan
Com3 scan complete Port in use
Com4/5 scan complete PCI found
since I have managed to initiate a connection and establish several projects I connect using 'show project manager', select project or add project choosing COM5, and 'scan network'.
I am still getting the original problems if I revert to those methods of connection.
Hope this is of some assistance.
Duncan
03 Nov 04, 07:14 PM
Additional details on problems Allgo has.
Laptop ACER 291 LMI centrino. XP Home SP2
SETUP DEFAULT LOCAL INTERFACE COM4 Belkin USB/SERIAL Adaptor
have also tried and still currently using
SETUP DEFAULT LOCAL INTERFACE COM5 Generic USB/SERIAL Adaptor
PCI
5500 PC serial # 0081175008 firmware 4.1.00
ERROR MESSAGES:
Scan network - ERROR 4012 No Network could be found etc.
Default settings are correct.
Start software Scan for Networks
Scan Serial Ports ticked
Serial port Scan starts
Com3 scan complete Port in use
Com4/5 scan complete PCI not found
Sometimes on fourth or fifth rescan
Com3 scan complete Port in use
Com4/5 scan complete PCI found
since I have managed to initiate a connection and establish several projects I connect using 'show project manager', select project or add project choosing COM5, and 'scan network'.
I am still getting the original problems if I revert to those methods of connection.
Hope this is of some assistance.
I feel it might be a problem with the particular USB interface, we'll try and buy one tomorrow and do some testing with it.
ashleigh
03 Nov 04, 08:53 PM
Have you used the cbus devkit or diagnostic program on this PCI?
If you have, make sure the PCI has NOT been set to EXSTAT or LOCAL_SAL mode.
If you have the devkit or diagnostic programs, and have set either of these modes, clear those settings before trying again.
Ashleigh
Have you used the cbus devkit or diagnostic program on this PCI?
Yes, diagnostic program. Have unchecked Local_Sal. Tried again to connect with Tool Kit but alas same problems still exist when using both adaptors.
Diagnostic utility V1.3 (I'm positive I downloaded V1.4 but program tells me it is V1.3).
When connection is established with Diag Util, program activates Local_Sal. Using mode setup I uncheck Local_Sal, if I close down Diag Util then reopen Local_Sal is once again checked. Is this correct?
ashleigh
04 Nov 04, 08:23 PM
Thats very strange. V4 PCI will just change the setting as instructed, and as far as I'm aware the diagnostic program does not care about LOCAL_SAL one way or the other.
Also, there should be a checkbox for setting the PCI power up settings. Make sure you turn off LOCAL_SAL, and every other option. (This is known as "basic" mode.) Make sure the option to set this as the power up default IS checked, and save all these changes to the PCI.
Then disconnect Diag program, and re-try.
Ashleigh
My previous information was slightly incorrect
Yes, diagnostic program. Have unchecked Local_Sal. Tried again to connect with Tool Kit but alas same problems still exist when using both adaptors.
Diagnostic utility V1.3 (I'm positive I downloaded V1.4 but program tells me it is V1.3).
When connection is established with Diag Util, program activates Local_Sal. Using mode setup I uncheck Local_Sal, if I close down Diag Util then reopen Local_Sal is once again checked. Is this correct?
Diagnostic program is not reactivating Local_Sal. Network Connection using Toolkit is reactivating PCN, Local_Sal, and PUN.
I can connect to network using Toolkit via Project Manager select project, select and open network, then scan network. This works everytime.
It is only when using scan network and search for network on Toolkit Start Page that I am mostly unsucessful.
My apologies for inaccurate information.
graeme
12 Nov 04, 10:47 PM
My Thread seems different since I was last here ?
O well some success today well a lot actually, connected to Test bed in workshop using another PC Interface we use to connect to Main Hospital System.
Sorry I am at home now and do not have the Firmware Numbers to report now but it is working in the workshop System too, using the above PCI.
Each system is different the Test Bed is the old type items, once again I do not have the details at the moment sorry but the Relay unit is the type you screw in the cables to small terminals and the dimmer, switches connect the same way.
This earlier type CBUS parts will not show ther Status ? but we can change there setting much easier with the new software.
One strange thing we noticed is the Movement Detector (sorry can not remember it true name) when set to operate as Day Night mode switch will not operate. But in the detection mode it works ok ?
The Maint Building system is a later type Din rail type, more functions in the software is available, such as the Status of some of the Relays etc yet to check all items but we are making some headway at last :D
I intend to contact Clipsal at Padstow and put myself and workmate down for the Training course (Basic and Inter.) should I wait till some of the bugs have been fixed ?? :rolleyes:
Regards
Graeme
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