IR Reader

[Joe C]

is there any other option apart from spending several hundred dollars on a 5100RP to learn IR codes for CIRCA?

Thanks

Joe

[Frank Mc Alinden]

Hi Joe
There was talk in another post that maybe Clipsal hire an ir reader out to those who dont want to purchase one......

Personally i think the price for the reader is a bit steep.....$700.00.....

Would be nice to have an area in the Forum where we can upload ir files that we have learned so others can have access to........

Frank

[Joe C]

Frank

Thanks for the reply. Maybe CIS could make the IR Reader software capable of talking to other devices like the IRMAN?

Joe

[Frank Mc Alinden]

Hi Joe
Was thinking along those lines myself ....USB UIRT

http://www.usbuirt.com/

Just ordered one of these units......

Frank

[Richo]

There was talk in another post that maybe Clipsal hire an ir reader out to those who dont want to purchase one

I believe most sales teams (at least in Australia) keep one handy for people use, without having to buy their own.

Maybe CIS could make the IR Reader software capable of talking to other devices...

This is certainly one of the features we are looking at, however, there are a lot of "complications" both techincal and legal that need to be overcome first. Don't expect anything soon in this area, but something I will be putting a bit of effort into once the "current changes" are complete.

Would be nice to have an area in the Forum where we can upload ir files that we have learned so others can have access to...

Excellent idea Frank, let me see what I can do.

[Richo]

Hi Joe
Was thinking along those lines myself ....USB UIRT

http://www.usbuirt.com/

Just ordered one of these units......

Although inexpensive that particular unit has the following specifications.

Receiver Frequencies:
• 34-40KHz Frequency Range
• *56KHz IR Receiver Add-On Option*

The C-Bus IR Reader is capable of reading 0-455kHz range of frequencies. The IR Reader is specifically designed to read the greatest range of IR Remotes and remote types that we could reasonably do.

[Colin Smith]

http://www.remotecentral.com/ has the remote codes for just about every remote control system ever manufactured. (Or so I am told).
These are free to download.
The condition is that you require appropriate software to read and write to the appropriate IR controllers.
This site also has icons for use on other remote controls that should be transferable into C-Touch and HomeGate.

The site is well worth a visit if you are trying to design a graphical front end. Even if it is just to get layout ideas!

Possibly some guru could download the IR codes and make them Clipsal IR compatible or write a conversion software package for all to use?

Training on universal remote controllers that I have done will import these codes and up-load them to a remote without a hassle. This also alleviates the possibility of read errors when trying to learn from an existing remote.

Colin Smith

[Frank Mc Alinden]

Receiver Frequencies:
• 34-40KHz Frequency Range
• *56KHz IR Receiver Add-On Option*

The C-Bus IR Reader is capable of reading 0-455kHz range of frequencies. The IR Reader is specifically designed to read the greatest range of IR Remotes and remote types that we could reasonably do.

Richo ...Lets face it ..that about covers most remotes out there....As far as im aware only B+O use 455khz.....
Like Colins idea about a piece of software to convert ir codes toClipsal format....
Frank

[Richo]

http://www.remotecentral.com/ has the remote codes for just about every remote control system ever manufactured. (Or so I am told).
These are free to download.


last time I looked, and a quick recheck, suggests that the only format they allow you download is CCF, which is a philips proprietory format.


Possibly some guru could download the IR codes and make them Clipsal IR compatible or write a conversion software package for all to use?


I spent a bit of time researching the CCF format and the conclusion I can to was that we would ned to license the format from Philips to be able to reliably support the format in Circa. Tyhe risks of releasing a commercial product based on a reverse engineering effort was a bit risky.


Training on universal remote controllers that I have done will import these codes and up-load them to a remote without a hassle. This also alleviates the possibility of read errors when trying to learn from an existing remote.

These non philips remotes support using CCF format?

Clipsal is looking at options to be able to leverage the fast resource of remote libraries found on the Internet. This is something I can't really say more about as it invloves various parties.

We *do* understand that having IR Reader as your only souce of IR code input is limiting and other sources would greatly benefit users.

[MichaelCarey]

Maybe we could have a database of system integrators/programmers/users that own an IR reader and would be willing to learn remote codes for others.
It probably means you would have to trust Aust. Post or a freight company with the safe delivery and return of the remote control though.
When I finally purchase an IR reader, I would be more than happy to learn some codes for others. As long as they pay the return freight costs :)
Regards,
Michael.

[richy]

Ok,

Took me all of one hour to get up to date on the C-Bus IR extravaganza.

So to sum it all up.

Remote Central is useless, along with the numerous other IR databases, unless you wish to convert Hex codes to Circa format - "yeah sorry Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V wont cut it" but you could try this
http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=911
Very smart, but very time consuming.


We Cant use other superior IR Learning stations, "PS IR-man is not a IR learning unit, that thing is a joke." but units like the Sonance OptilinQ IR Learner or the RTI IR-Pro unit.

We have to use the C-Bus Learning device.

We cant paste Hex codes.

Hmmm, :mad:


Seems, many painfull problems could be resolved by supporting the Cut and Paste of Hex codes.

I cant understand why CIS did not go with HEX as a standard :confused:

[richy]

Richo
I spent a bit of time researching the CCF format and the conclusion I can to was that we would ned to license the format from Philips to be able to reliably support the format in Circa. Tyhe risks of releasing a commercial product based on a reverse engineering effort was a bit risky.

CCF, PCF, NVO ... etc.. yes these are file formats of well know universal remotes
We are not asking Circa to import CFF files or similar, but surely to extract a HEX code from a CCF or the likes, does not require a license !!!

Its just HEX ...
Cut and Paste.

Why is CIS not supporting HEX code pasting ?????

[Richo]

Why is CIS not supporting HEX code pasting ?????

Currently it's just a time and resources issue unfortunately :( I know it is important.