C-touch Screen

[dav_bon]

Is there a colour touch screen available yet? Did the Gay guys install one in there unit on "The Block".

[Newman]

Currently, as in today, there is no colour C-Bus Touch Screen available.

We, as CIS employees, are not allowed to talk about future products in these forums.

[dav_bon]

But if some was already installed and shown on TV then that was in the past.

[captain]

If you aren't allowed to talk about them on the forum, where are you allowed to talk about them?

[Darren]

Andrew's point was that most CIS employees are not permitted to make promises of product delivery dates, as it causes problems if the delivery dates are not met.

CIS has announced that it will be released, we just aren't sure when.

[dav_bon]

My point is still... was that a colour screen that they installed on "The Block"
The system was definitely C-bus. So does anyone know what the screen was? If it was a Clipsal Product then how did they get it ? What do we tell our customers when they are asking for it. Sorry maybe use HPM. Does it not say something about the poor communications between Clipsal and it's Official Installers if we have to get our information from TV shows. And when we ask the question were told no comment.

[Doug]

The touch screen the two boys installed in their unit was a HPM i-Control unit. The other alternative that you could probably use and somebody correct me if I am wrong here, is to run Homegate and attach an LG, Celtron or 3M touchscreen computer monitor to the main server and mount the monitor in a central location where it can be used for control but then can be also used for web access or whatever functionality you really want out of a PC. I hope I have been helpfull with this suggestion.

Doug Marr
Advanced Smart Home Designs
Mobile: 0419479571

[wensky]

i plan to use an Lg 15' Lcd touch screen via a small multi mieda pc i also would like to use a pocket pc via a wireless network to control the network do you know of some software i can use?

[ramon]

I use my Blackberry to access via a PC running Remotely Anywhere and C-Gate... C-Gate runs a Telnet server, hence you can telnet to it to control. I just wrote some basic shell scripts in a Linux Vitual Machine, and launch them as required... eg. open door, turn on alarm, turn on/off lights etc.... crude, but as the Blackberry can be used anywhere it gives me access where ever i am... of course if you've got Internet access and a PC you can remote control the PC and do whatever you like (i call up the C-Touch software generally and run the necessary commands) however the mobile access can sometimes come in handy.

[Merlin]

If you are going to run the 15" touch screen then you are using home gate I would think.

Home gate ships with ServerX for web access this can be used and configured for use via a web browser on almost all devices. This is the easy and least time consuming method.

How far do you want to go with this and how much time and money do you want to spend

[Jason]

I'm in need of a better touch screen than the C-touch, its too small, and I need colour. Is anyone running Homegate and a touch screen succesfully? I would happily buy homegate but I'm afraid that it will be very limited. I'm not happy with the type of screen attached to this post with C-touch. It works functionally but I cannot fit enough on it. Does anyone know if Clipsal have demo versions of Homegate or Schedule plus to test whether it is worth setting up? I have just finished ripping up the wall with all that is needed to fun a PC touch screen (attachment 2).
I really want to get the most out of the stable C-bus hardware, but the touch interface is holding me back.

[Richo]

My point is still... was that a colour screen that they installed on "The Block"
The system was definitely C-bus. So does anyone know what the screen was? If it was a Clipsal Product then how did they get it ? What do we tell our customers when they are asking for it. Sorry maybe use HPM. Does it not say something about the poor communications between Clipsal and it's Official Installers if we have to get our information from TV shows. And when we ask the question were told no comment.
Hi,

I can see where you are coming from, but you have to understand the guys here from CIS are techincal people, we actually have little knowledge of what the marketing and sales guys are up to.

These forums are a way we can interact with our users in a direct way, helping to increase the knowledge transfer and communication.

When you have technical problems we will try to help. When you have feature suggestions we will listen.

However, presently, there are mostly technical employees on this list, and if we seem to be haveing a "no comment" attitude is most probably because we don't know.

The sales channel and offical email/phone support channels are an excellent way of finding out all the marketing and sales related queries. These forums will be an excellent way fo deally with technical issues.

I hope that helps explain the position we are in.

[Rolecgroup]

I'm in need of a better touch screen than the C-touch, its too small, and I need colour. Is anyone running Homegate and a touch screen succesfully? I would happily buy homegate but I'm afraid that it will be very limited. I'm not happy with the type of screen attached to this post with C-touch. It works functionally but I cannot fit enough on it. Does anyone know if Clipsal have demo versions of Homegate or Schedule plus to test whether it is worth setting up? I have just finished ripping up the wall with all that is needed to fun a PC touch screen (attachment 2).
I really want to get the most out of the stable C-bus hardware, but the touch interface is holding me back.

This is my touch screen running HomeGate

http://www.rolec.net/main.jpg
http://www.rolec.net/lounge.jpg
http://www.rolec.net/dining1.jpg
http://www.rolec.net/dining2.jpg
http://www.rolec.net/bedroom.jpg
http://www.rolec.net/cctv.jpg

We also run Homegate web facing on our website, you can control our PDA screened version and see action via webcam.

Homegate works a treat on a touch screen !! - Dynamic sliders are sooo cool if you actually run Homegate on it rather than as a web screen.



Dean.

[Steve Tester]

i plan to use an Lg 15' Lcd touch screen via a small multi mieda pc i also would like to use a pocket pc via a wireless network to control the network do you know of some software i can use?
Hi wnnsky,
I have my Pocket PC controlling C-Bus.
Installed C-Gate & wrote web pages to control C-Bus via C-Gate using supplied software & documentation on C-Gate CD.
For general network access & control via normal PC's I used the supplied Java Applets, however my Pocket PC will not read Java Applets so I use the CGI scripts commands also supplied on the C-Gate CD for the Pocket PC page. Using frames I was able to get C-Gate responses to appear on the same page, so I had some feed back.
See below, bed1 using CGI & Java & Pocket PC page after a get level command.
Was a lot of work & is possibily outdated by now, however it works & is very reliable
Only using it at home for now, havent found a customer with the same interest/requirements as yet. :)

[Rolecgroup]

Wensky.

These are PDA Homegate screens we use.

These were optimised originally for Opera running on a Sharp Zaurus, but size up ok on most PDA's.

http://www.rolec.net/pda1.jpg http://www.rolec.net/pda2.jpg

http://www.rolec.net/pda3.jpg http://www.rolec.net/pda4.jpg

When you run Homegate in fullscreen mode you loose the Homegate border and exit button.

Hope this helps make your mind up !!



Dean.

[znelbok]

Does anyone know if Clipsal have demo versions of Homegate or Schedule plus to test whether it is worth setting up?

Yes there was a demo available. I had both sent to me, but that was only after talking with CIS about homegate and schedule plus.

Mick

[JackD]

Of course, the Schedule Plus program is "out there" and there is nothing stopping you getting a touch sensitive PC like an Advantec or something and loading Schedule Plus on that computer. I imagine that would look a lot like a "bought one" but you probably wouldn't want to stick it in a wall or it would overheat.

[znelbok]

This thread is very close to what I have been talking about for our install at home. I think the touchscreen is too small and that a panel PC (or flush mount monitor) with a touchscreen would be better as it can do more (internet webcams/dvr etc) as well as have colour and larger screen.

Can anyone recomend a touchscreen and what touchscreen technology is best.

It would be good if we could share some of the custom graphics that have been created as well

Mick

[Doug]

Check out this site for some decent touch screens and very well priced aswell. www.tftmonitors.com.au

Doug Marr
Advanced Smart Home Designs

[Htnut]

[QUOTE=Richo]Hi,

I can see where you are coming from, but you have to understand the guys here from CIS are techincal people, we actually have little knowledge of what the marketing and sales guys are up to.

These forums are a way we can interact with our users in a direct way, helping to increase the knowledge transfer and communication.

When you have technical problems we will try to help. When you have feature suggestions we will listen.

QUOTE]


Perhaps some of the sales and marketing people should read this forum. I think this will be a great way for the marketing people to know what their customers are up to

[Richo]

Perhaps some of the sales and marketing people should read this forum. I think this will be a great way for the marketing people to know what their customers are up to

They will be joining the list. However you will probably find no one willing to put their job on the line by committing to Google prosterity information that isn't officially released. However, if you contact the tech support guys or sales guys direct (phone) they will be more than willing to help field any questions on future products as best as they can.

[Doug]

I have to totally agree with dav_bon. People want a colour touch screen and are now resorting to using Homegate and a 3rd party monitor to gain the functionallity they want. I a client really wants a colour touch screen they will probably be more inclined in the current climate to go with HPM instead of forking out thousands more for a 15" monitor and homegate server. It may look better but to most of the people wanting home automation they have already underestimated the intial cost of their grand plans and will be looking at saving money wherever they can but still be on the home automation bandwagon.

Regards
Doug Marr
Advanced Smart Home Designs

[Wilko]

Ok, we'll leave the poor technical guys alone then. I have heard (from a Clipsal sales source) that the colour touch screen will be launched in September, along with several other very cool sounding C-Bus bits.

[dav_bon]

I must of hit a nerve ???? I notice that my last comments have been censored.

[Duncan]

I must of hit a nerve ???? I notice that my last comments have been censored.

Dav,

There's just a merry band of CIS Technical staff who are contributing to this forum, we're all passionate about the technology and about the work we're doing. Thats how we want to keep this forum.

If our desire to continue to contribute to this forum is going to be maintained in the long term then the focus this forum has needs to remain completely technical. If we as technical people are forced to commit emotional energy to running pitched battles defending schedules and delivery dates then we're quickly going to expend our enthusiasm.

Please, if you have feedback or want to take a dig at the schedules or the company, Phone, Fax, Email or write a Letter to the Marketing Manager or General Manager etc.

You have been offered exceptional access to the CIS Techical Team and as a team we are determined that this forum shall remain completely TECHNICAL. Your posts was unduly disparaging, negative and offered no value to the Technical content of this forum, thus it was deleted.

[Jason]

I will have to get hold of Homegate to see how easy it is to work with. I have just got hold of a laptop to run it with.